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Old 09-15-06, 09:55 PM
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Arrow Looks like XS Power is getting some recognition.....

And not anything positive, lol.

http://reviews.ebay.com/XS-Power-Chi...AT:-1:SEARCH:5
Old 09-15-06, 10:40 PM
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yess, i'm gonna go buy 20 of these!! so i can make pots and pans
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Yea, I wouldn't trust a non reputable turbo company to make something as comlex as a turbocharger.

There is an amazing amount of testing and engineering that goes into each turbo before it is released for production. Precise machining goes into these turbos that greatly effects performance and reliability. And because they take so much stress, heat and spin so fast, they fail in ways you would never even begin to imagine.

HKS and Precision are just rebadged Garrett turbo's, as Turbonetics used to be. Turbonetics used to be rebadged Garrett turbochargers as well, before they stole our technology and started making turbos themselves, there is really bad blood between Garrett and Turbonetics.

I wouldn't even dream of using an ebay turbo or XS, cutting corners on a turbo is not a good idea.
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...I remember 2 years before I got my drivers license, when I got my first car in 1974, a 68 Camaro RS/SS....Kragen Auto Parts tried to sell me rear brake slave cylinders. I told the person that I didn't want them because the were made in Japan...lol
Old 09-16-06, 12:43 AM
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time to take off my xs power decals all over my civic
Old 09-16-06, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Ledfoot
...I remember 2 years before I got my drivers license, when I got my first car in 1974, a 68 Camaro RS/SS....Kragen Auto Parts tried to sell me rear brake slave cylinders. I told the person that I didn't want them because the were made in Japan...lol
Heh, and now look at those darn Japanese. Most of their products now have a reputation for quality, with much of that surpassing any Western-made goods.

China is basically in the same position the Japanese were back in the '50s and early '60s. Cheap labor and ultra-rapid industrialization allows them to make various products easier and thus cheaper, but they're still trying to figure out how to get the quality right. Whether they can do that like the Japanese did without their differing socio-economic world collapsing upon itself remains to be seen...
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Originally Posted by Kento
Heh, and now look at those darn Japanese. Most of their products now have a reputation for quality, with much of that surpassing any Western-made goods.

China is basically in the same position the Japanese were back in the '50s and early '60s. Cheap labor and ultra-rapid industrialization allows them to make various products easier and thus cheaper, but they're still trying to figure out how to get the quality right. Whether they can do that like the Japanese did without their differing socio-economic world collapsing upon itself remains to be seen...
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China's environmental isses are a more daunting problem if you ask me
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Originally Posted by Improved FD
China's environmental isses are a more daunting problem if you ask me
That's part of what I meant when I mentioned their socio-economic world collapsing. The communist government is having an increasingly difficult time dealing with the people in the rural areas revolting against the land takeovers and pollution that is causing widespread health problems. No one has really heard about them because the government is currently doing a good job of sweeping them under the carpet and away from the prying eyes of the media. China has numerous social issues that are building up to a major meltdown if they don't figure out a solution soon.

Sorry, I guess this thread is veering off course into a socio-economic discourse...back to the XS Power topic...
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Originally Posted by CarbonR1
Yea, I wouldn't trust a non reputable turbo company to make something as comlex as a turbocharger.

There is an amazing amount of testing and engineering that goes into each turbo before it is released for production. Precise machining goes into these turbos that greatly effects performance and reliability. And because they take so much stress, heat and spin so fast, they fail in ways you would never even begin to imagine.

HKS and Precision are just rebadged Garrett turbo's, as Turbonetics used to be. Turbonetics used to be rebadged Garrett turbochargers as well, before they stole our technology and started making turbos themselves, there is really bad blood between Garrett and Turbonetics.

I wouldn't even dream of using an ebay turbo or XS, cutting corners on a turbo is not a good idea.
I thought Turbonetics and Garrett are the same company now. Both purchased by Kelly Aerospace.
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where is XSTransAm to defend his company.. did he sell his fd or something?
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Originally Posted by pinkrx7
where is XSTransAm to defend his company.. did he sell his fd or something?
His company is TurboXS, no relation to the XS Power line of 'Piece O ****' parts
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