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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 03:13 PM
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Damn, man I'm sorry to hear about that. It sucks to bust a motor.

You mind sharing some info? You could just PM me if youd rather.....or keep it to yourself if you want to haha

I'm curious what timing you were running at peak tq or in the area you were tuning on and also how much boost you were running at the time. Did you remove a lot of fuel at once or mess with any other settings?

I'm giving up a lot of power in my tuning(super conservative timing and split) especially at low rpms but the car is running so good and making good power I cant bring myself to mess with it. I dont have the time for a rebuild job.

Thanks man,
STEPHEN

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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by tbielobockie
A fuel system problem, low octane gas, or a computer freakout can happen quick enough to ruin your engine but not fast enough to show up on your A/F gauge.

This is the basic danger of running boost in an engine that can't tolerate detonation.
thaaaaaanks

dude haven't you ruined enough threads already? Everyone knows about the v8 conversion and we all know how much you think the rotary sucks but about .5% of the people are doing the conversion and 99.5% will get rebuilds whenever their motor blows because of a mistake they made in tuning or an improperly running car. The engine doesn't blow for no reason. There are obvious explanations to the engine losses and in the near future there will be very practical solutions to these weakpoints of the rotary or people will learn more about them and know what not to do so the engine losses will be very minimal.

ROTARY POWER
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 12:49 AM
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yes...i too am curious as to the conditions you were under when you blew your motor. spo asked some good questions to help figure that out.

I know how hard it is at first...i nearly lost mine during a blast of pop op pop op pop! courtesy of some bad maps to start with.


at that point and from then after it was baby steps only. tuning takes huge patience...fuel first...then timing...and just a few cels at a time...inch thru the boost...

is that how you were doing it when you blew?


curious...


jason
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 07:16 AM
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You seriously have way too much time on your hands. Don't you have anymore more constructive to do than to repeatedly come on here, and the Big List, and try to educate us on the shittiness of the rotary? GROW UP!


Originally posted by tbielobockie
Keep sticking you head in the sand and you will keep replacing rotaries.

There is an explaination for every turbo rotary failure. That is: It's not a good idea to turbocharge a rotary engine because it can't tolerate detonation.

Just say no to rotary power.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 07:42 AM
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Originally posted by tbielobockie
Keep sticking you head in the sand and you will keep replacing rotaries.

There is an explaination for every turbo rotary failure. That is: It's not a good idea to turbocharge a rotary engine because it can't tolerate detonation.

Just say no to rotary power.
/yawn
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 08:34 AM
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i agree...he is an ignoramus.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 09:20 AM
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What fuel was being used when this happened?

When I do tuning on the road I make sure to have some C16 in the tank just to be sure.

Sorry to hear about your motor.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by ArchangelX
There's nothing wrong with a PFC.

Tuning by yourself without the right tools is what can get you into trouble...at least from what I've seen from the posts of this board.
I didn't mean to say that there was anything wrong with the PFC, just my lack of tuning experience and unwilllingness to roll the dice with my motor.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 12:40 PM
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We are all well aware of the strengths and weaknesses of the rotary engine. Everyone with any kind of knowledge about rotaries knows that they aren't very tolerant of detonation. With that said, I don't understand the point of your posts; they border on blatant harassment of rotary enthusiasts. Is this what you do in your spare time to have fun?

You have been refuted countless times, but you just refuse to acknowledge it.

We know your stance on turbo-charged rotary engines. You're not bringing anything new to the table, and aren't helping us whatsoever. Why do you continue to post the same thing over and over again? Only to get a rise out of the rotary community? You're obviously not swaying anyone's opinion.


Originally posted by tbielobockie
I repeatedly post the simple and obvious truth.

I've yet to be refuted.

The rotary isn't a shitty engine, it's great for some applications, however none of those applications involve a turbocharger.

If you really want forced induction the engine should be able to handle the stresses that go along with it. Otherwise you have a flawed design.

Like building your house out of balsa wood. Works great until the first wind storm.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 12:41 PM
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We are all well aware of the strengths and weaknesses of the rotary engine. Everyone with any kind of knowledge about rotaries knows that they aren't very tolerant of detonation. With that said, I don't understand the point of your posts; they border on blatant harassment of rotary enthusiasts. Is this what you do in your spare time to have fun?

You have been refuted countless times, but you just refuse to acknowledge it.

We know your stance on turbo-charged rotary engines. You're not bringing anything new to the table, and aren't helping us whatsoever. Why do you continue to post the same thing over and over again? Only to get a rise out of the rotary community? You're obviously not swaying anyone's opinion.


Originally posted by tbielobockie
I repeatedly post the simple and obvious truth.

I've yet to be refuted.

The rotary isn't a shitty engine, it's great for some applications, however none of those applications involve a turbocharger.

If you really want forced induction the engine should be able to handle the stresses that go along with it. Otherwise you have a flawed design.

Like building your house out of balsa wood. Works great until the first wind storm.
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