And the issues keep showing up...
#1
And the issues keep showing up...
As I continue to drive this recently built car, things here and there keep popping up. I just noticed on top of the motor under the throttle body some oil. So I removed the throttle body and see oil on the back side of the throttle body and inside the upper manifold. I'm baffled as to where this can come from because the intake charge pipe is dry.
I have not revved this motor past 3500k rpm because I'm still breaking in the motor. So I don't think it's blow by. The motor now only has about 100 miles on it.
Can someone shed light on what the cause can be? Thanks
I have not revved this motor past 3500k rpm because I'm still breaking in the motor. So I don't think it's blow by. The motor now only has about 100 miles on it.
Can someone shed light on what the cause can be? Thanks
#6
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It looks like the PCV valve is oriented correctly. Its one-way feature lets crankcase gases flow from the oil filler neck into the intake, but will not let boosted intake air flow back into the filler neck. Sounds strange, but if the valve is working correctly, it WILL allow oil to flow from the filler neck into the intake along with the crankcase gasses.
How did the oil get there? When fresh engine oil was added to the motor, some could have run down the inside of the filler neck and entered the PCV nipple where it opens into the side of the filler neck. It's best to use a long necked funnel that reaches past that nipple to the bottom of the filler neck when adding engine oil so that fresh oil never flows over the PCV valve opening. Also, if the engine is idling when you add oil, intake vacuum can draw the oil in via the PCV line -- another reason to use a long neck funnel for adding oil and shut the damn engine off. Finally, if oil sloshes back up into the filler neck during heavy cornering, etc., it can be drawn into the PCV line and enter the intake.
How did the oil get there? When fresh engine oil was added to the motor, some could have run down the inside of the filler neck and entered the PCV nipple where it opens into the side of the filler neck. It's best to use a long necked funnel that reaches past that nipple to the bottom of the filler neck when adding engine oil so that fresh oil never flows over the PCV valve opening. Also, if the engine is idling when you add oil, intake vacuum can draw the oil in via the PCV line -- another reason to use a long neck funnel for adding oil and shut the damn engine off. Finally, if oil sloshes back up into the filler neck during heavy cornering, etc., it can be drawn into the PCV line and enter the intake.
#7
It looks like the PCV valve is oriented correctly. Its one-way feature lets crankcase gases flow from the oil filler neck into the intake, but will not let boosted intake air flow back into the filler neck. Sounds strange, but if the valve is working correctly, it WILL allow oil to flow from the filler neck into the intake along with the crankcase gasses.
How did the oil get there? When fresh engine oil was added to the motor, some could have run down the inside of the filler neck and entered the PCV nipple where it opens into the side of the filler neck. It's best to use a long necked funnel that reaches past that nipple to the bottom of the filler neck when adding engine oil so that fresh oil never flows over the PCV valve opening. Also, if the engine is idling when you add oil, intake vacuum can draw the oil in via the PCV line -- another reason to use a long neck funnel for adding oil and shut the damn engine off. Finally, if oil sloshes back up into the filler neck during heavy cornering, etc., it can be drawn into the PCV line and enter the intake.
How did the oil get there? When fresh engine oil was added to the motor, some could have run down the inside of the filler neck and entered the PCV nipple where it opens into the side of the filler neck. It's best to use a long necked funnel that reaches past that nipple to the bottom of the filler neck when adding engine oil so that fresh oil never flows over the PCV valve opening. Also, if the engine is idling when you add oil, intake vacuum can draw the oil in via the PCV line -- another reason to use a long neck funnel for adding oil and shut the damn engine off. Finally, if oil sloshes back up into the filler neck during heavy cornering, etc., it can be drawn into the PCV line and enter the intake.
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#12
So I only have one hose going to the upper intake manifold which is the pvc valve from the top of the oil filler neck. The valve doesn't have an arrow indicating the direction.
I took off the valve an it sounds loose internally when shakened. I believe that's a sign that it's still in working order. I also blew from one direction which went through and from the other direction had resistance.
I just wondering if it was installed incorrectly?
I took off the valve an it sounds loose internally when shakened. I believe that's a sign that it's still in working order. I also blew from one direction which went through and from the other direction had resistance.
I just wondering if it was installed incorrectly?
#14
The TB was actually very tightly secure. It took quite an effort to loosen the bolts. Could be that the metal gasket has voids. That will most likely be replaced. What I need to figure out is why oil is there in the first place.
If the pcv valve was installed incorrectly would that allow excess oil to pass?
If the pcv valve was installed incorrectly would that allow excess oil to pass?
Last edited by coolrotariesR1; 01-19-23 at 03:01 PM.
#18
I see. If I can understand further on how the pcv valve should be installed.
So if installed correctly the valve should have some vacuum while at idle right? Meaning if I put my finger to one side there should be some suction?
I cleaned up all signs of oil and will put everything back together and see if in fact I see the same amount of oil in the same place.
So if installed correctly the valve should have some vacuum while at idle right? Meaning if I put my finger to one side there should be some suction?
I cleaned up all signs of oil and will put everything back together and see if in fact I see the same amount of oil in the same place.
#22
10000 RPM Lane
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supposedly for the pcv valve and then into the UIM, but thought I read somewhere there are two(?) nipples on there. If so then somebody more familiar with the OE functions will need to pipe in.
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...-turbo-749702/
You might consider venting the oil sump into a catch tank rather than into the intake to avoid that.
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https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...-turbo-749702/
You might consider venting the oil sump into a catch tank rather than into the intake to avoid that.
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#24
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The center iron nipple is not used on the FD. See post #10 and following in this thread: https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generati...ipple-1028577/