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Old 07-22-11, 05:37 PM
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Issues I've never dealt with.

Hey all!

Ok so I got a medium SMIC setup since my stock IC was really, really messed up. What I noticed before taking everything apart was that I had coolant leaks, but never had the temp gauge leave the middle position. After taking everything out and inspecting, I didnt notice any damage to the radiator. As of now, I put everything back to together with the new IC, and noticed that I now overheat. I get a little less than 3/4 of the way to the red on the temp gauge, and Ive noticed I still loss coolant after I park the car. There isn't ever an active leak when the car is running, but the morning after I come out, it has pissed on my floor.

Ive read coolant seal issues, etc. I've never taken apart the 13B before, so I suppose this will be a learning experience for me. Any advice before I start turning wrenches if this is the case? I'd like to find a surefire way to test if my coolant seals are bad. I was just about to buy a new radiator but I dont want to just yet if my problem resides inside the engine. Car has 122K on it, and seller said the engine had a rebuild 40K ago. Having the IC be bad, and the AC pulley burn out... I'm starting to wonder if I should just get a new engine or do a rebuild.

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Old 07-22-11, 06:00 PM
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[QUOTE=RXSgt;10715768]never had the temp gauge leave the middle position. I get a little less than 3/4 of the way to the red on the temp gauge, and Ive noticed I still loss coolant after I park the car. QUOTE]

Stock temp gauge ?
Old 07-22-11, 08:54 PM
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Yea, stock temp gauge. I noticed that the scoop on this sucker takes away half of the intake crack for the radiator. I've cut it down, installed a small fan on the IC to make up for it and ordered a new radiator, hoses and water temp gauge. Should make things better.
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Also, bought the battery relocation kit so I can open up all that radiator fan area.
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There are multiple common symtoms of a coolant seal failure. But taken individually they can all be from other causes. The more symtoms you have in combination the more likely it's a seal failure.
FWIW, even minimal movement of the stock temp gauge from it's typical position of just below half-way means you got the engine pretty hot.
Posted in another thread posing a similar question. Might be others but it's all of them I could think of.....
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*Stumbling idle on cold start-up that clears up quickly. The combustion chamber is fouled with coolant. As soon as it's purged or burned up, your car will run fine until the next cold start.
*Slightly sweet exhaust smell, especially on start-up. See above. Coolant is being burned and it has a distinctive smell.
*"White smoke" (steam) on cold start-up even in warm/hot weather. See above.
*A coolant over-flow tank that is over-flowing. This will usually result in a puddle under the car near the right front...the area of the over-flow tank. When coolant gets hot it expands and that's what the overflow tank is for. But with a failed seal the nature vacuum that forms and pulls that coolant back out as the engine cools down is lost. That leaves that coolant stranded in the tank and eventually it overflows.
*Coolant loss that isn't explained by a puddle on your garage floor. It's being consumed by the engine and going out the exhaust.
*Spiking temps that seemingly recover on their own almost as quickly. Air pockets in the cooling system allow steam to form. That will cause temp spiking. This is different than a rising temp just after a period of hard boost. It can happen as your steadily cruising down the highway.
*Boiling sounds after shut down even shortly after properly "burping" the system. See above.
*Failed coolant system pressure test.
*Failed test of coolant for hydrocarbons.
*Unusually clean plugs, or wet plugs if you pull them right away after starting the car. (Sometimes you can even smell the coolant)
*One or more episodes of serious overheating in the car's history regardless of miles. (from what I've read, 115 C./240 F. seems to be the critical number for OEM seals to begin to degrade)
*An otherwise well maintained and cared-for FD approaching 100K miles or so.
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Well after doing some tinkering today, I found out that the car has many problems. I found a decent amount of standing oil in the IC, plus the coolant issues? So, its been parked in the garage, and Its time to find build up a new engine. Now, it is officially a project car.
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Some oil in the intercooler and piping isn't uncommon and isn't necessarily a sign any trouble. I clean mine out every spring...part of a routine when taking it out of winter storage. Some dish soap and hot water. No big deal.
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