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Old 10-07-07, 08:43 PM
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Introducing my self.+ questions

Hey guys, my name is Manuel i originally from Cancun,Mexico, but for the last 4 years i have been leaving in Toronto.
I own a 95 eagle talon that has been my project car for the four years that i been in canada, it is basically set up for time attack and i am planning to dont use it on the street anymore.

I was leaning towards buying a EVO but we cant get them here, so i have decide to buy an RX7 FD from japan and make it look as good as i can for my daily driver, but since i am ditchin the evov III and probably a brand new evo x, i want to make it as reliable posible too.

I have been reading trought out this board i have found that the b13 engine is not the most reliable engine out there,
and coming from dsm's i do know what a non-reliable engine means to people like us that dont have the time to work on our cars everytime it brakes down.

I also have read about guys switching to LS1 engines and to tell you the truth i am very interested in doing that swap, but i would like to hear from you guys, actual owners of this machines what do you think, should i do it? yes no and why?.

I do not know much at all about the RX7's let alone its engine, but again i did not know anything about dsm's four years ago. I hope to learn alot from this board as i go.

Thanks you for the feed back in advance.

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Old 10-07-07, 11:15 PM
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Hey Manuel, i'm pretty new here too. Before you go and plan your attack on the rx7 to make it reliable you should know that many people first buy a 7 because of its uniqueness..there aren't many cars out there with rotary engines. I have no idea what an LS1 swap will cost you but my guess is spending the extra cash on a bone stock, well maintained, lower-mileage 7 and dropping in some reliability mods will be your best bet. Plus...how can you bare ripping out those turbos!

So far the forum and my mechanic have showed me that the biggest problems with this car are overheating and lean-fuel mixture. You should definitely look into this yourself here: https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/faq-3rd-gen-other-useful-links-68640/
But here's a preview of what i've had done:
1. Replace pre-cat with a downpipe
2. replaced fuel filter more often than a typical car...tied with #1 in importance!!
3. overhauled entire water cooling system
4. checked/replaced turbo vaccuum lines and solenoids

Good luck, and don't mention 'LS1 swap' again
Old 10-08-07, 09:58 AM
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Thank you very much for all the info, and sorry about the LS1 thing i did not mean to disrespect anyone i knew i shouldnt talted about but i really needed to know how you guys felt about it.
thank again, i will look into the rotary and how to keep reliable.
-Manuel
Old 10-08-07, 11:05 AM
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Hahaha i'm just joking, I really don't think anyone would take that disrespectfully. I'm glad you're not jumping in to something like an engine swap right away just because of rumors that the 7 can't be a daily driver/reliable car. If it turns out its too much work to keep the rotary reliable go ahead and swap it, many people are happy with the results (including a friend of mine). If you need any more advice or info you can pm me.
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Thanks for the support,i aprecciate that.
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do some searching, while many of us dont like the idea of a v8 swap many more love it and have done it. many threads around, but expect to get bashed more often, but also praised for th swap. I say, if you want a reliable v8 then just buy a c5 corvette. No need to take away the uniqueness of the 7
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Point blank is that if you run a rotary motor it can be reliable but everyone I know that owns a rotary including myself fears popping the motor. They can blow for so many different reasons it is a very scarry engine to own.

now on the Ls1 swap its actually a really good swap, and if you get a aluminum Ls1 block than it can actually be lighter than the 13b. the best place to look at about this swap is the other engine conversions thread on the forum and also http://www.grannysspeedshop.com/ has alot of info and conversion kits for the swap.

My personnal opinion on this would be if you dont absolutely love the rotary go with the Ls1 its so much easier in the long run. I love the rotary and sometimes I wonder why but I love the rarity and the performance of the motor.
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I'm not scared of my motor blowing, provided everything is running well.

Of course if you push the boost way up it's a little different. If you want high power out of a rotary then you've got to quit worrying about blowing it since it will happen sooner or later.

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well yeah if you keep it stock its fine but since hes had a modded dsm I was figuring he would by an fd just to keep it stock.
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And you would be just right on that one.
I just got the dsm off the dyno at magnus and it got really good numbers, but to much for a daily driver plus i want to keep it as my road race car, i have been contemplating the idea of a NICE clean daily driver car for a while.
First was the evo VIII but cant get them in canada then it was the M3 but it just does not flow with me, that left me with only two options:FD rx7 or 92 Skyline, the second one would only bring me trouble i know it, i would start purring money right away AWD RB26 ? is dangerous for me plus the RX7 looks way nicer , so i have decide bring a 92 fd from japan and put the money on a nice paint job and few bling stuff for it (no rice).

I just want a nice cruising car, and the 7 is the one i pick wish me luck, i really do aprecciate the feed back from you guys.

This a great board.

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You must mean 13b yes?
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Have you read the FAQ?

I find it hard to believe that an FD would have better reliability than a Skyline. I don't know much of anything about Skylines, but I will tell you that FDs without the reliability mods and thorough maintenance can be a nightmare.

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Originally Posted by zack4173
Point blank is that if you run a rotary motor it can be reliable but everyone I know that owns a rotary including myself fears popping the motor. They can blow for so many different reasons it is a very scarry engine to own.

now on the Ls1 swap its actually a really good swap, and if you get a aluminum Ls1 block than it can actually be lighter than the 13b. the best place to look at about this swap is the other engine conversions thread on the forum and also http://www.grannysspeedshop.com/ has alot of info and conversion kits for the swap.

My personnal opinion on this would be if you dont absolutely love the rotary go with the Ls1 its so much easier in the long run. I love the rotary and sometimes I wonder why but I love the rarity and the performance of the motor.
Congrats on being a rotary owner that understands the LS1 swap.
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why thank you
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being in canada you CAN get ahold of a series 6 from japan legally. you can probably find a lower mileage one without too much trouble, the cars that come over are usually well taken care of.

if it did go bad it would be interesting to have a rhd ls1


to tell the truth im considering it more and more, never had any problems with mine in 3 years but it sits more than i would like and im scared it might blow now more than ever oh and its annoying as **** to work on
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wtf??!!!

NO MAN wtf !!>>>??? im sick of this fucken bullshit! what is the point of getting an RXfucken7??? for the rotary engine ! why not just get another PISTON engine vechicle and swap in the fucken v8 . **** whatever,... do what you want man. im just tired of hearing that ppl are swaping out the rotary engine and it makes me fucken pissed. Why even buy the fucken thing?!! You should have bought a piece of **** supra or some other piece of fucken piston crap piece of ****, and swap whatever-the-**** motor you want. On top of it,.....you have an fd?! i have an fc! you are fortunate to own that car and your going to ruin it with a heavy piece of ****. AND yes i can talk **** about v8 cuz i use to own a camaro z28 ...hey i'm not knocking it i loved the camaro, but this is about ruining a piece of technology that is different from the rest. whatever i dont really care what you do, its your car your choice, but again why the hell did you buy that fd rx7? cuz it was cool? wtf no one should have bought their rx7 if they dont care about the rotary engine.,.....fucken ruining these cars,...i say try and save every rotary car you can, not destroy it. wtf??!
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Originally Posted by Red Sidewinder
NO MAN wtf !!>>>??? im sick of this fucken bullshit! what is the point of getting an RXfucken7??? for the rotary engine ! why not just get another PISTON engine vechicle and swap in the fucken v8 . **** whatever,... do what you want man. im just tired of hearing that ppl are swaping out the rotary engine and it makes me fucken pissed. Why even buy the fucken thing?!! You should have bought a piece of **** supra or some other piece of fucken piston crap piece of ****, and swap whatever-the-**** motor you want. On top of it,.....you have an fd?! i have an fc! you are fortunate to own that car and your going to ruin it with a heavy piece of ****. AND yes i can talk **** about v8 cuz i use to own a camaro z28 ...hey i'm not knocking it i loved the camaro, but this is about ruining a piece of technology that is different from the rest. whatever i dont really care what you do, its your car your choice, but again why the hell did you buy that fd rx7? cuz it was cool? wtf no one should have bought their rx7 if they dont care about the rotary engine.,.....fucken ruining these cars,...i say try and save every rotary car you can, not destroy it. wtf??!
You are an idiot why are you you having such a hissy fit you sound like a 14 year old girl. The reason why alot of peole buy the fd is because of the body not the engine most people could care less about the engine. Also the less rotary FD's there are the more there price goes up which is good for all of us. Next time you post calm the hell down whats wrong with you.
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i do agree with Red but im not gona sook like a baby. The rotary engine was what attracted me to the FD, the rest is just a bonus.
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you should do whatever the hell you want. swap it or keep the rotary. whatever makes you happy right. just know what the hell your getting yourself into. It's weird how people can just talk **** about piston engines when there also fast. fast is fast god damn it!!! I love the rotary but I can never really hate the piston engine or cry about it.
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Listen Manuel if you dont like getting your hands dirty or do not have time to fixed your own car the 7 is not for you word of advice get a a new GTO, or something similar, owning rx-7 is more than driving is a passion, but remember it doesnt matter what car you get you always are going to be behind a rx smelling fumes, lol.
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http://www.v8rx7forum.com
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Wow, damn.
well i guess that would be the exact reaction i would have if someone told me that they were going to replace the 4G63 in a dsm for a V8.

I do like to get dirty and do the work on my own car, hell, if you want it done right you have to do your self.
but when you just dont have time, well, just just dont have time.
I do not have anything against the rotary engine because i cant, i never own one, but its reputation its just as bad as the dms's reputation.

I have a very fast car already so that thrill its been achieve. and like someone here said i did picked the FD because its looks for a daily driver, you got to give me credit at least i have good taste.LOL. I picked it over an M3, and even an evo(that i cant get).

I have my mind made up, i will be getting my FD asap, it will be going straight to the paint shop, and after that i will drive it for a while without touching anything, in the mean time i will do my research on both LS1 and B13 and see where it takes me.

Thanks for the feedback guys its cool to know what all of you really think about the wholedeal.

-Manuel
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Originally Posted by gmonsen
swapping in a 20b rotary motor that puts out power more comparable to the LS1.
Wait, what?
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Does it?
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if you are looking for a daily driver car an rx7 is not for you. try a honda...lol


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