intermittent ZERO (0) boost problem
intermittent ZERO (0) boost problem
My boost pattern is usually normal 10-8-10, however, today on the drive to work, I boosted fine in 2nd to redline (7500 RPM), but then had ZERO boost in 3rd.
I stayed off the boost for about 1/4 mile, then tried again, and got boost (10-psi), although it felt slow to react.
I searched the archived, and will check the following:
1) check valves from chamber and MAP sensor (original);
2) lines (vaccuum and pressure) for turbo-control actuator (TCA);
3) solenoids
Note, this is a NEW engine, with new solenoids, new VITON lines, and NEW turbo (including TCA, wastegate, etc.).
Anything else I'm missing, or that I should quickly check ?
BTW: I did have the OIL in my intake system during hard-G sweepers, which resulted in a loose BOV hose (fixed). Could there be oil in my solenoids causing problems ? If so, just spray with brake-cleaner ?
Thanks,
:-) neil
I stayed off the boost for about 1/4 mile, then tried again, and got boost (10-psi), although it felt slow to react.
I searched the archived, and will check the following:
1) check valves from chamber and MAP sensor (original);
2) lines (vaccuum and pressure) for turbo-control actuator (TCA);
3) solenoids
Note, this is a NEW engine, with new solenoids, new VITON lines, and NEW turbo (including TCA, wastegate, etc.).
Anything else I'm missing, or that I should quickly check ?
BTW: I did have the OIL in my intake system during hard-G sweepers, which resulted in a loose BOV hose (fixed). Could there be oil in my solenoids causing problems ? If so, just spray with brake-cleaner ?
Thanks,
:-) neil
Last edited by M104-AMG; Mar 7, 2005 at 08:52 AM.
Hmm....if you have the original Mazda check valves, there could be a problem with them. BTW, the MAP sensor doesn't have a check valve - that's just a filter.
Dave Disney found a problem with the simple 2-way check valves not holding higher boost, but if you're running stock boost I doubt that could be the problem.
Could also have been a loose intercooler pipe that popped off, then the vacuum sucked it back into place. I've seen that happen.
Dale
Dave Disney found a problem with the simple 2-way check valves not holding higher boost, but if you're running stock boost I doubt that could be the problem.
Could also have been a loose intercooler pipe that popped off, then the vacuum sucked it back into place. I've seen that happen.
Dale
Originally Posted by DaleClark
Hmm....if you have the original Mazda check valves, there could be a problem with them. <SNIP>
Dave Disney found a problem with the simple 2-way check valves not holding higher boost, but if you're running stock boost I doubt that could be the problem.
<SNIP>
Dale
Dave Disney found a problem with the simple 2-way check valves not holding higher boost, but if you're running stock boost I doubt that could be the problem.
<SNIP>
Dale
BTW: I'll take this opportunity to install my VITON check-valves I purchased from you . . .
:-) neil
Yeah, now's a good time for the Viton check valves! 
I wasn't clear on my post - Dave found the *solenoids* in the solenoid rack can have problems holding higher boost. Here's the thread on it -
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/weird-boost-issue-341534/
Dale

I wasn't clear on my post - Dave found the *solenoids* in the solenoid rack can have problems holding higher boost. Here's the thread on it -
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/weird-boost-issue-341534/
Dale
I drove her home during the lunch break so she'll be nice and cool when I work on her tonight.
On the drive home and coolant temp at 180-F, she would only boost to about 5-psi. on the primary turbo, and about 1-2 psi on the secondary.
As I got closer to home, she would boost to about 10-psi on the primary, coolant temp at 210-F.
A quick visual check showed nothing loose.
:-( neil
BTW: on the ride home, the tach went dead (turn signals and speedometer work), so I'll be checking for cold/broken solder joints as well.
On the drive home and coolant temp at 180-F, she would only boost to about 5-psi. on the primary turbo, and about 1-2 psi on the secondary.
As I got closer to home, she would boost to about 10-psi on the primary, coolant temp at 210-F.
A quick visual check showed nothing loose.
:-( neil
BTW: on the ride home, the tach went dead (turn signals and speedometer work), so I'll be checking for cold/broken solder joints as well.
Could also be a problem with the ignition coil harness. A new updated harness is around $80 or so, and the stockers are known to go bad. That could account for loss of power and the sudden tach problem.
Dale
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Ugh, all check valves, and vaccuum lines tested good (used a MityVac). I also tested all actuators, and all passed. This makes sense because at idle I have 18 Hg of vaccuum.
I really don't want to pull the rat's nest, but I noticed the charge control solenoid (F) had worked its way off of the rat's nest chassis, but no loose electrical connector or vaccuum lines.
Tomorrow is another day . . .
:-( neil
I really don't want to pull the rat's nest, but I noticed the charge control solenoid (F) had worked its way off of the rat's nest chassis, but no loose electrical connector or vaccuum lines.
Tomorrow is another day . . .
:-( neil
ALL check valves and vaccuum chambers tested good. The chambers test upto 25-psi pressure, and 25 Hg of vaccuum.
I did David Disney's test of the charge control solenoid, and yes mine sticks at 12-15 psi.
FWIW, with needle nose pliers I was able to take off the electrical connector, and put on aligator test leads again with the needle nose pliers.
I added 12VDC, pumped in 15-psi, and it stuck for a couple of seconds before finally releasing.
David's writeup is great, and thanks to Dale for pointing me to it. More info can be found at these links:
http://rx7.voodoobox.net/howto/solen...oid_check.html
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=341534
Time to get another one and do more testing . . .
Dead tach tomorrow . . .
:-) neil
I did David Disney's test of the charge control solenoid, and yes mine sticks at 12-15 psi.
FWIW, with needle nose pliers I was able to take off the electrical connector, and put on aligator test leads again with the needle nose pliers.
I added 12VDC, pumped in 15-psi, and it stuck for a couple of seconds before finally releasing.
David's writeup is great, and thanks to Dale for pointing me to it. More info can be found at these links:
http://rx7.voodoobox.net/howto/solen...oid_check.html
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=341534
Time to get another one and do more testing . . .
Dead tach tomorrow . . .
:-) neil
BTW: here are some photos showing doing a test while the solenoid is still in the rat's nest and in the car.
:-) neil
PS: note the power-supply made by me from 1980!


:-) neil
PS: note the power-supply made by me from 1980!
Last edited by M104-AMG; Mar 7, 2005 at 10:57 PM.
Originally Posted by DaleClark
Could also be a problem with the ignition coil harness. A new updated harness is around $80 or so, and the stockers are known to go bad. That could account for loss of power and the sudden tach problem.
Dale
Dale
I replaced ALL components except the IC on the tach, and re-soldered everything. Then I cleaned with a ScotchBrite pad all of the circuit connectors, screws, and put some De-Oxit preservative as well.
Tach is working, but after a 15-minute harddrive, it went dead. Then while just cruising for about 10-minutes, the tach came back to life.
Hence, I think it's somewhere in the ignition coil harness.
BTW: I replaced the solenoid and all seems well.
:-) neil
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