I have a question... Is this unit going to weigh more?? and also, is it going to be smaller and be more effective??

I think the key is better air flow to the rad so heat will be dispersed better..
But what do I know.. I know nothing..

 

No, no, no.

You have got to REMOVE heat from the medium the water is in as well. Which goes back to the heat exchanger being the limiting agent in the first place.

 

Not quite sure what you mean.

Is "...medium the water is in..." refering to the cooler itself?

If this cooler were to replace the radiator it could be located where the front opening would supply airflow, and with a couple of pull fans, this thing would see at least as much airflow as the stock radiator. So the heat exchanged via surface area, should be similar or better than the stock radiator.

I am working on a more accurate drawing that will depict a better shape, and design.

 

I'm tellin' ya. It's basically a primitive refrigeration system.

Not that I'm slamming it, just stating my impression of it.

 

Yeah, but removing 2 units of heat from 1 unit of coolant will leave you with a hotter engine than removing 3 units of heat from 3 units of coolant. The units of heat removed is what matters, not how quickly you can cool a small amount of coolant.

A cooling system that gets only a 30 degree drop in four gallons of water is WAY better than a system that can reduce the temp of 4 ounces of water by 100 degrees.

-Max

 

I agree with Maxcooper..

 

Yes, but ALL of the coolant would be introduced into this chamber as a spray. So you would be cooling ALL of the fluid in this manner.
It would just be a constantly running system.

Where are you getting the idea that a small amount of fluid would get cooled?? I said small particles, not small amounts. You could set this system up to cycle as much coolant as the stock system.

For sake of argument Say the stock system cycles 10 gallons a minute. You could have a manifold (much like a fuel rail) at the intake side of the cooling chamber, with 10 equally spaced sprayers that are capable of flowing 1 gallon per minute. Then you have a waterpump capable of keeping pressure on a system that flows 10gpm constantly.

Viola! your system flows as much as stock, but ALL of the coolant would be sprayed and run down the walls cooling chamber allowing more rapid cooling of the smaller particles of water. Make sense?

Whew, I don't think I have the brain power to explain it any further.

Like I said, It may be a bogus Idea. Just getting opinions.

 

Actually, if you think about it, it is more like a fuel system. Except its spraying water into a cooling chamber, rather than fuel into a motor.

I understand your point, but you don't think it is easier to remove heat from a water mist or spray rather than a dense liquid???
If this system could flow as much as the stock system, and all of the water could be cooled this way, what could be the reasons this wouldn't work?? Besides maybe size required to cycle the right amount of fluid.

 

You need to optimize the flow of heat from the raditor to the air that flows through it. Having jets spray coolant into the top of a partially-empty raditor doesn't seem like it helps transfer heat from the raditor to the air that flows through it when compared to a full raditor in a normal configuration. In fact, the jets seem like they would be significantly less efficient. At best, it would cool a small amount of coolant more than the traditional raditor would cool a large amount of coolant. But the net effect would be less heat rejected from the cooling system as best I can figure. I'm not an engineer, but I just don't see how the jets would improve the rate of heat rejection from the cooling system.

I applaud your determination to find a better cooling system, I just don't see how the setup described here has any advantages over a traditional raditor.

-Max

 

I need to make a comment.. since its getting late..

I do understand you are trying to figure out a way to cool better.. But I think better for you is to cool it below optimal temp.. Don't forget, just as SPOautos pointed out.. 85-90C is optimal..

Your cooling system might work.. but also sounds like fuel system.. Which means, you need to flow quite a bit.. and almost spraying like mist into the cooling chamber.. I don't know but, have you seen your cooling reserve tank?? I have ton of debris floating.. So, which means you would need to put a filtering system.. which means you have to change that like oil filter.. so that it wouldn't clog the injector type sprayer.. So, if one of those clogs, you are pretty much screwed..

Like Max and I mentioned earlier, better system would be to figure out a way to increase the air flow and increase the effectiveness of cooling..

I have a front mount and fluidyne radiator.. I was also looking at Koyo before buying mine.. But bigger core always don't mean better.. My issue was which one will have better air flow, I choose, fluidyne because its slightly thinner, and hence easier air flow, Am I right, I don't know.. better would be to have an real scientific test.. has anyone done this?, I don't know..