RX7 RAGE

iTrader: (22)

Jeff, isn't the price $1795? That's what it is on rx7 store.

Assud

Its always awsome to see the person who actually makes and works with the product give his customers a direct answer about a question. Hats off to you!

Gargamel

Good lord that's expensive........ I built my own wilwood kit for 550.

rynberg

And the quality is about 1/3 of that Stoptech kit too....

J Ritt

Prices were originally $1795 for black anodized calipers, and $1995 for painted. The purpose of the black anodized part was to keep prices down in certain markets. However, we have made the decision to only produce painted calipers from this point forward (on all kits), since they hold up better and they look better. Rather than keep the $1995 price point that most of our painted kits are at, we decided to cut it to $1895. On our initial orders for the $1795 anodized calipers for the FD, we substituted black painted calipers at no extra charge. From this point on, there is only one kit, and it is $1895...red, black, or silver paint with slotted rotors. Drilled rotors are +$100, and not recommended for track use. Yellow or blue calipers can be had for +$200.

Thanks! It's a fun position for me to be in, and it feels good when people who are passionate about the same thing that you are praise your product. It's tough though. There are a LOT of boards for a lot of different types of cars, and everyone wants an answer right away.

A few side notes that may be of interest to people considering this kit....The 911 Turbo that clinched the One Lap of America event this weekend was using a StopTech front big brake kit (with stock rears). The mechanic that prepped the car talked to my tech service mgr. this morning and called it 'hand of God braking.' I thought that was a pretty damn cool descriptor that I never heard before, and it really started my week off right. http://caranddriver.com/article.asp...article_id=8095

Also, we are doing exceeding well with our front BBK's in professional Competition. Bill Auberlin won the first race of the year:http://www.stoptech.com/press_releas...ns_sebring.htm
At the second race, the Bimmerworld 3 series BMW's took 2-4th: http://www.world-challenge.com/news/04press67.html
We're also doing well in Grand Am Cup. These cars use a front only 332mm with the exact same components as the RX-7 kit.

Gargamel

and your proof is where?

RX7INSAC

awesome! Those are not cheap.

ptrhahn

iTrader: (9)

Anybody can build their own "kit" for less than kits are offered at. The price of the rotors and calipers for an of them is less than the total price. The difference is, you'll need to have custom hats made, and have caliper adapter brackets machined from scratch, and mate up new lines... you're paying for that engineering. FWIW, $1895 is pretty good conmsidering many kits are over $2k.

What the heck kind of parts did you use for $550? Even the replacement Coleman rotors for the Mandeville kit that uses the stock rotors are mnore than that. Heck, the PFC 93 pads i used for stock calipers were over $200.

Section8

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Quoted just to re-enforce this to anyone thinking of using x-drilled rotors on track. Bling factor has no place there :p

Gargamel

I mistyped my first post. I actually purchased a kit. The kit came with everything I needed.

Here is the kit http://www.speedwaymotors.com/xq/asp...qx/product.htm

rynberg

And you think that REAR-BRAKE kit is the equivalent of the Stoptech FRONT-BRAKE kit? The kit you linked to isn't even as good as the stock rear brakes. Nice try.

Gargamel

Worse than the stockers? Care to explain you theory?

Kento

He meant that you're trying to compare the cost of a rear brake kit to a model-specific, fully-developed front brake kit. That Wilwood kit is a "universal" kit that probably hasn't even been tested on an FD. It also (as nearly all rear brake kits that replace the stock caliper) omits the emergency/parking brake, which many like to keep for street use, and doesn't include upgraded brake lines.

Just FYI, there's HUGE difference in the cost to manufacture a 332mm ventilated rotor versus a single one-piece stamped steel rotor. Trying to compare the cost of a rear brake kit to a front brake kit is like trying to compare a stock Honda Civic to an FD.

Also FYI, the performance benefits (slim to none) of major upgrades to the rear brakes were discussed in the previous Stoptech brake thread.

Gargamel

All I asked was how the stoptech was better than wilwood. And the wilwood vs. stock brakes bs.

rynberg

So you show a picture?

Here's why they are worse:

Wilwood rotors are 11.5x0.35, stock is 11.6x0.79. You just lost heat capacity from stock, which is compounded by cross-drilling the rotors.

There is also the issue of balancing the piston area from front-to-rear.

Still want to argue? BTW, you can get the rear 99+ Mazda brakes (12.4x0.79 rotors and calipers) for about $750 from Mazdamotorsports.

tekno62

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who makes these rims? have a side view of them on a FD

rynberg

They are Work wheels.

BACK ON TOPIC:

95FD_VA, please let us know how they hold up on track. I'm very interested in hearing some first-hand track experience from other FD owners.

95FD_VA

Will do, going to VIR in late June. I also ordered some custom wheel spacers from Wheel Adaptor that Jeff from StopTech reccomended. $80 for the pair. They will be 1/4" thick and hub centric. I'll post an update when I get those.

pugg57

could you send me a link to that? i went to the page but got lost looking for them... i've been ineterested in upgrading all around but would like something that is matching front and rear (i'm vain). do they also sell the front kits?

rynberg

Hopefully you're referring to the 99+ brakes...

You can get the 99+ brakes from Mazdamotorsports, but you have to be a member (just send 2 auto-x results to them). www.mazdamotorsports.com

And yes, you can get the full 99+ brakes (all hardware and pads), and for less than $2000. Not bad for 12.4" rotors, 1.25" thick front, 0.79" rear.

pugg57

hmm... i have to have raced? see, that's where i'm screwed i was referring to the 99+ brake kits. do you know of anywhere that mear street driver could get them? lookinng to eventually make bit of a sleeper/show car.

Gargamel

My Wilwood rotors are 10.75 x .81 which is ideal for the weight of my car. 99+ rotors won't fit on my car.

ps. I'm not arguing, just have a conversation

rynberg

How do you get that 10.75x0.81 is ideal for the weight of your car? That is significantly smaller than stock. It's most likely fine for street driving but on the track, those are going to overheat badly.

I assume 99+ rotors won't fit on your car because of your live axle?

Gargamel

I mis-typed. Sorry for the confusion. Mine are 11.75" (298,5) .81" (20,6) and only 8 pounds each. I don't road race my car so they aren't going through much abuse. Yes to the live axle.

I wasn't saying that mine were better than anyones. I just stated that $1,800 is lot of money

Assud

1 and 0 are on opposite ends of the keyboard what are you typing with a 2x6?