injector setup? give me your .02
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injector setup? give me your .02
okay so i have been reading up on injectors the past few days and it seems like there isn't a clear answer to me as what's the best way to go about setting up my injectors....
i just ordered 2 used secondary injectors that i plan to make fit on my primary. so i plan to run 850 x4 setup. but i was talking to one of my buddy who had 3 fd and he said i should go 850 & 1300. but then i also read somewhere that if i get my 850 boarded to 1300... there is some reliability issues?
can anyone give me some insight as to what you would do?
i am trying to get to ~ 350 rwhp and here is my setup & plan:
- fmic
- intake
- h20 AI
- dp, mp, and rb dual tip
- simplified turbo system
- pfc
- port wastegate
- koyo rad
- fuel pump
i just ordered 2 used secondary injectors that i plan to make fit on my primary. so i plan to run 850 x4 setup. but i was talking to one of my buddy who had 3 fd and he said i should go 850 & 1300. but then i also read somewhere that if i get my 850 boarded to 1300... there is some reliability issues?
can anyone give me some insight as to what you would do?
i am trying to get to ~ 350 rwhp and here is my setup & plan:
- fmic
- intake
- h20 AI
- dp, mp, and rb dual tip
- simplified turbo system
- pfc
- port wastegate
- koyo rad
- fuel pump
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coming from someone running a 850x4 setup....I'd go with stock primary injectors and larger secondaries.
While I don't have any drivability or running issues, you'll never be able to lean it out enough to not have a serious fuel smell at all times....my car stinks. I knew that going in but will still consider changing down the road.
While I don't have any drivability or running issues, you'll never be able to lean it out enough to not have a serious fuel smell at all times....my car stinks. I knew that going in but will still consider changing down the road.
#3
coming from someone running a 850x4 setup....I'd go with stock primary injectors and larger secondaries.
While I don't have any drivability or running issues, you'll never be able to lean it out enough to not have a serious fuel smell at all times....my car stinks. I knew that going in but will still consider changing down the road.
While I don't have any drivability or running issues, you'll never be able to lean it out enough to not have a serious fuel smell at all times....my car stinks. I knew that going in but will still consider changing down the road.
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I don't really like to change primaries. You never get a decent idle. For some people this is fine, but I have dealt with enough customers that desire a stock idling car. If anything put the 850s in the primary location. I just don't like running top feeds in the primary location with the power fc. With other ecus its not as bad.
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I'm currently running 4x850's with a Bosch 044 pump and an Aeromotive FPR set to 50psi (vice the stock 38-40) as the base pressure.
My car does NOT smell like fuel, I have not had any problems with a rough idle, and I'm only hitting 85% IDC at redline while pushing 18psi on BNRs with stock ports (roughly 400rwhp, depending on dyno used).
I don't presume to know more than anybody else when it comes to tuning and injectors, I just figured I'd share my experience.
If you're going to be putting used injectors in there I would definitely suggest having them professionally cleaned and flow tested prior to installation!!!
My car does NOT smell like fuel, I have not had any problems with a rough idle, and I'm only hitting 85% IDC at redline while pushing 18psi on BNRs with stock ports (roughly 400rwhp, depending on dyno used).
I don't presume to know more than anybody else when it comes to tuning and injectors, I just figured I'd share my experience.
If you're going to be putting used injectors in there I would definitely suggest having them professionally cleaned and flow tested prior to installation!!!
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I'm currently running 4x850's with a Bosch 044 pump and an Aeromotive FPR set to 50psi (vice the stock 38-40) as the base pressure.
My car does NOT smell like fuel, I have not had any problems with a rough idle, and I'm only hitting 85% IDC at redline while pushing 18psi on BNRs with stock ports (roughly 400rwhp, depending on dyno used).
I don't presume to know more than anybody else when it comes to tuning and injectors, I just figured I'd share my experience.
If you're going to be putting used injectors in there I would definitely suggest having them professionally cleaned and flow tested prior to installation!!!
My car does NOT smell like fuel, I have not had any problems with a rough idle, and I'm only hitting 85% IDC at redline while pushing 18psi on BNRs with stock ports (roughly 400rwhp, depending on dyno used).
I don't presume to know more than anybody else when it comes to tuning and injectors, I just figured I'd share my experience.
If you're going to be putting used injectors in there I would definitely suggest having them professionally cleaned and flow tested prior to installation!!!
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I just upgraded to 1600cc's from my enlarged OEM 1300cc secondaries. They worked fine for me at 380whp and I never had any problems with reliability. From what I've read, if you want to go past 400 whp, you'd be pushing the cycle too much with them, but you are only looking for 350. pm me if you are interested in taking them off my hands.
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Anybody bother to enlarge the primaries say 10%-15% 600-625cc or so. I realize money spent for not much gain but I figure if you can get a little without screwing up the idle then so be it. Also I understand the 850's bored to 1200 are much more reliable than to 1300cc's
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why don't you just open the wallet get the1600 secondary's? You're going to want them anyways because some day you'll want to make more power and you'll need them. Everybody does. 550/1600 will be fine to 400rwhp, and you don't have the increased hassle of tuning larger primaries.
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I dont have any personal knowledge on my car about this but through my years of readings on the forums running 850 primaries can cause more issues than they are worth. I am going for the 1600 secondaries.
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Read this thread for GoodfellaFD3S while you are researching:
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-gen-archives-73/some-fuel-system-ramblings-578521/
Aren't the Archives great
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-gen-archives-73/some-fuel-system-ramblings-578521/
Aren't the Archives great
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Bubblicious DEF.
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I just upgraded to 1600cc's from my enlarged OEM 1300cc secondaries. They worked fine for me at 380whp and I never had any problems with reliability. From what I've read, if you want to go past 400 whp, you'd be pushing the cycle too much with them, but you are only looking for 350. pm me if you are interested in taking them off my hands.
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Mr Sparkles
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With 550/1300's using the stock FPR and a Supra or Nippon Denso fuel pump upgrade you will hit 100% injector duty cycle at around 16.5 psi with a good flowing street port.
I suggest you go with 550cc primary and 1600cc top feed injectors in the secondary and a FJO injector driver. This should give a little head room above what the BNR's can put out to be safe if your boost controller wigs out.
Dan
I suggest you go with 550cc primary and 1600cc top feed injectors in the secondary and a FJO injector driver. This should give a little head room above what the BNR's can put out to be safe if your boost controller wigs out.
Dan
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Bubblicious DEF.
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With 550/1300's using the stock FPR and a Supra or Nippon Denso fuel pump upgrade you will hit 100% injector duty cycle at around 16.5 psi with a good flowing street port.
I suggest you go with 550cc primary and 1600cc top feed injectors in the secondary and a FJO injector driver. This should give a little head room above what the BNR's can put out to be safe if your boost controller wigs out.
Dan
I suggest you go with 550cc primary and 1600cc top feed injectors in the secondary and a FJO injector driver. This should give a little head room above what the BNR's can put out to be safe if your boost controller wigs out.
Dan
im actually debating with 550/1600 or 850 all around..