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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 01:01 PM
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Originally posted by rxrotary2_7
oh i dont know... the one on Dee's car only dynoed 769 on a 13B last time i checked. and these have been on cars running in the 7's and 8's for YEARS.
as far as zeroR's, i have no idea.
i'm talking about if there would be a benefit for a street car.......i know d's race car made almost 800rwhp but umm that is not the norm. his is full race yadda yadda
there are more street cars than full race cars out there. i was just wondering what its setup for. i'm gonna assume max top end power ?
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 01:29 PM
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yeah streetability IS compromised by the placement of the injectors. what me Ernie and joe are gonna do for that is to use one of my primary rails to deliver the fuel for primary into the block/primary ports. not going to give it all away, but thats the *jist* of it...

Originally posted by vosko
i'm talking about if there would be a benefit for a street car.......i know d's race car made almost 800rwhp but umm that is not the norm.
sorry i didnt understand the translation from this:
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those all look very nice any of them dyno tested yet ?
it just sounded like you wanted dyno numbers and didnt believe that they work. i was under the impression that you didnt know half of the high HP cars out there are using Jay's stuff. dont know where you implied anythign about a benifit on the street. thats why i replied the way i did.
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by rxrotary2_7
here is the holley setup.



HOLLEY MOLLEY!!!!
you guys are freakn awesome!!!
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 03:28 PM
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Hey Sean, was that ITB setup on your V-mount FD?? I don't remember seeing it in the pictures from the "other" forum. Or is that off of one of your other cars? And what did you mean by switching over to 1.9L engine? I am thinking that you're talking about a 20B, but I could be wrong. What did that ITB car dyno at and how was it tuned??

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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by rxrotary2_7
yeah streetability IS compromised by the placement of the injectors. what me Ernie and joe are gonna do for that is to use one of my primary rails to deliver the fuel for primary into the block/primary ports. not going to give it all away, but thats the *jist* of it...

Yeah injector placement is somewhat crucial, the mani I have pictured gives you four injector holders and you also use the primary rail as well otherwise it is a real bitch to tune.

-Sean
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 04:03 PM
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Hey Sean, was that ITB setup on your V-mount FD?? I don't remember seeing it in the pictures from the "other" forum. Or is that off of one of your other cars? And what did you mean by switching over to 1.9L engine? I am thinking that you're talking about a 20B, but I could be wrong. What did that ITB car dyno at and how was it tuned??

Zach
It was made for the v-mount FD it is primarely designed for road race not drag,hence the longer runners, what I did was fairly simple just took some measurements made some drawings and looked at some pics.Of other examples that were proven and went from there. It never got put on the car because I started pulling the car apart for other things and now I'm putting in the 20B.So I get to make another one and it will probably be out of carbon, and lean more torwards shorter runner length.

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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by rxrotary2_7
yeah streetability IS compromised by the placement of the injectors. what me Ernie and joe are gonna do for that is to use one of my primary rails to deliver the fuel for primary into the block/primary ports. not going to give it all away, but thats the *jist* of it...

sorry i didnt understand the translation from this: it just sounded like you wanted dyno numbers and didnt believe that they work. i was under the impression that you didnt know half of the high HP cars out there are using Jay's stuff. dont know where you implied anythign about a benifit on the street. thats why i replied the way i did.
i've seen them on lots of race cars at ito's shop....nothing remotely streetable. if you have a dyno sheet you can see the power curve and figure out if helps or hinders street performance. do you need to run 30psi on a giant turbo to maximize the power gain of this intake. very people have them on street cars that i have ever seen. again a dyno sheet would be great to look at of it on a real street car. come on keith you know you wanna put it on your car
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 05:09 PM
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Sean, is there anything that you don't make?? You'll have to keep me posted on the 20B project. Especially if you make the ITB's and runners out of carbon. I'm going to have to come out to your shop when I get back stateside. You have it setup for visitors??

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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by vosko
i'm talking about if there would be a benefit for a street car.......i know d's race car made almost 800rwhp but umm that is not the norm. his is full race yadda yadda
there are more street cars than full race cars out there. i was just wondering what its setup for. i'm gonna assume max top end power ?
I'll tell ya what Vos, when I put the JayTech manifold from Keith on my 7 and I throw some 9 second passes down like there goin outa style, I'll let ya know how "streetable" it is......lol...........
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 01:08 AM
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Originally posted by ErnieT
I'll tell ya what Vos, when I put the JayTech manifold from Keith on my 7 and I throw some 9 second passes down like there goin outa style, I'll let ya know how "streetable" it is......lol...........
i just wanna know if the only power gains are at 8000rpm at 30psi of boost

if so there is no point in any person that doesn't plan on running 9's to buy this

silly me why would i want information on an expensive product........
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 01:45 AM
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Originally posted by Cihuuy
HOLLEY MOLLEY!!!!
you guys are freakn awesome!!!
They kinda look like some of the throttles from Marren

http://www.injector.com/throttlebodies.php
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 05:03 AM
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Originally posted by 88fc3sw/HX83
They kinda look like some of the throttles from Marren
they do? i will attatch marrens in this post for you to compare. looks to me as if you would have to have injectors plumbed in somewhere other than at the base of the throttle like the one i pictured.
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 05:46 AM
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Originally posted by vosko
if you have a dyno sheet you can see the power curve and figure out if helps or hinders street performance.
not that you havent seen this before....


Originally posted by vosko
again a dyno sheet would be great to look at of it on a real street car. come on keith you know you wanna put it on your car
what do you mean "you know you wanna"? one is going on my car. street car as far as what goes? to run in the street class? or leagal to drive on the street? LOL i had a whole big thig typed out but i will make it short.... just wait for some other results and we will keep it at that.
Originally posted by vosko

if so there is no point in any person that doesn't plan on running 9's to buy this
no one is trying to sell something to someone who doesnt need it. nor is anyone trying to sell something period really. it was a picture thread until you asked for a dyno sheet like it was a bogus design or something.
so lets drop it.

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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 07:39 AM
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Keith,
Do you have any set prices? Does Jay have any manifolds for the 13BRE? How does sombody order one?

Thanks,
Jim
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 07:50 AM
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i am working on putting them available on a site. until then email me rxrotary2_7@yahoo.com
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 10:14 AM
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looks like a very nice piece... something overdue for our cars. since it is beautifully engineered i assume that runner length and volume either will or are dialed in. i have done alot of non-chassis dyno work and runner length is almost everything when making power. incorrect runner length/volume creates "stand-off" which destroys the proper harmonic and wrecks BSFC. the manifold might be designed with either adjustable length runners or 2 lengths for specific application.
congrats on what should eventually replace another oem piece.
howard coleman
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