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11-22-03, 01:01 PM
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Originally posted by rxrotary2_7
oh i dont know... the one on Dee's car only dynoed 769 on a 13B last time i checked. and these have been on cars running in the 7's and 8's for YEARS.
as far as zeroR's, i have no idea.
oh i dont know... the one on Dee's car only dynoed 769 on a 13B last time i checked. and these have been on cars running in the 7's and 8's for YEARS.
as far as zeroR's, i have no idea.
there are more street cars than full race cars out there. i was just wondering what its setup for. i'm gonna assume max top end power ?
11-22-03, 01:29 PM
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yeah streetability IS compromised by the placement of the injectors. what me Ernie and joe are gonna do for that is to use one of my primary rails to deliver the fuel for primary into the block/primary ports. not going to give it all away, but thats the *jist* of it...
sorry i didnt understand the translation from this:
it just sounded like you wanted dyno numbers and didnt believe that they work. i was under the impression that you didnt know half of the high HP cars out there are using Jay's stuff. 
dont know where you implied anythign about a benifit on the street. thats why i replied the way i did.
Originally posted by vosko
i'm talking about if there would be a benefit for a street car.......i know d's race car made almost 800rwhp but umm that is not the norm.
i'm talking about if there would be a benefit for a street car.......i know d's race car made almost 800rwhp but umm that is not the norm.
Originally posted by vosko
those all look very nice any of them dyno tested yet ?
those all look very nice any of them dyno tested yet ?
dont know where you implied anythign about a benifit on the street. thats why i replied the way i did. 
11-22-03, 03:28 PM
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Hey Sean, was that ITB setup on your V-mount FD?? I don't remember seeing it in the pictures from the "other" forum. Or is that off of one of your other cars? And what did you mean by switching over to 1.9L engine? I am thinking that you're talking about a 20B, but I could be wrong. What did that ITB car dyno at and how was it tuned??
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11-22-03, 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by rxrotary2_7
yeah streetability IS compromised by the placement of the injectors. what me Ernie and joe are gonna do for that is to use one of my primary rails to deliver the fuel for primary into the block/primary ports. not going to give it all away, but thats the *jist* of it...
yeah streetability IS compromised by the placement of the injectors. what me Ernie and joe are gonna do for that is to use one of my primary rails to deliver the fuel for primary into the block/primary ports. not going to give it all away, but thats the *jist* of it...
Yeah injector placement is somewhat crucial, the mani I have pictured gives you four injector holders and you also use the primary rail as well otherwise it is a real bitch to tune.
-Sean
11-22-03, 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by BoostedRex
Hey Sean, was that ITB setup on your V-mount FD?? I don't remember seeing it in the pictures from the "other" forum. Or is that off of one of your other cars? And what did you mean by switching over to 1.9L engine? I am thinking that you're talking about a 20B, but I could be wrong. What did that ITB car dyno at and how was it tuned??
Zach
Hey Sean, was that ITB setup on your V-mount FD?? I don't remember seeing it in the pictures from the "other" forum. Or is that off of one of your other cars? And what did you mean by switching over to 1.9L engine? I am thinking that you're talking about a 20B, but I could be wrong. What did that ITB car dyno at and how was it tuned??
Zach
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11-22-03, 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by rxrotary2_7
yeah streetability IS compromised by the placement of the injectors. what me Ernie and joe are gonna do for that is to use one of my primary rails to deliver the fuel for primary into the block/primary ports. not going to give it all away, but thats the *jist* of it...
sorry i didnt understand the translation from this: it just sounded like you wanted dyno numbers and didnt believe that they work. i was under the impression that you didnt know half of the high HP cars out there are using Jay's stuff. dont know where you implied anythign about a benifit on the street. thats why i replied the way i did.
yeah streetability IS compromised by the placement of the injectors. what me Ernie and joe are gonna do for that is to use one of my primary rails to deliver the fuel for primary into the block/primary ports. not going to give it all away, but thats the *jist* of it...
sorry i didnt understand the translation from this: it just sounded like you wanted dyno numbers and didnt believe that they work. i was under the impression that you didnt know half of the high HP cars out there are using Jay's stuff.
dont know where you implied anythign about a benifit on the street. thats why i replied the way i did.
11-22-03, 05:09 PM
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Sean, is there anything that you don't make?? You'll have to keep me posted on the 20B project. Especially if you make the ITB's and runners out of carbon. I'm going to have to come out to your shop when I get back stateside. You have it setup for visitors??
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11-22-03, 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by vosko
i'm talking about if there would be a benefit for a street car.......i know d's race car made almost 800rwhp but umm that is not the norm. his is full race yadda yadda
there are more street cars than full race cars out there. i was just wondering what its setup for. i'm gonna assume max top end power ?
i'm talking about if there would be a benefit for a street car.......i know d's race car made almost 800rwhp but umm that is not the norm. his is full race yadda yadda
there are more street cars than full race cars out there. i was just wondering what its setup for. i'm gonna assume max top end power ?
11-23-03, 01:08 AM
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Originally posted by ErnieT
I'll tell ya what Vos, when I put the JayTech manifold from Keith on my 7 and I throw some 9 second passes down like there goin outa style, I'll let ya know how "streetable" it is......lol...........
I'll tell ya what Vos, when I put the JayTech manifold from Keith on my 7 and I throw some 9 second passes down like there goin outa style, I'll let ya know how "streetable" it is......lol...........
if so there is no point in any person that doesn't plan on running 9's to buy this
silly me why would i want information on an expensive product........
11-23-03, 01:45 AM
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11-23-03, 05:03 AM
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Originally posted by 88fc3sw/HX83
They kinda look like some of the throttles from Marren
They kinda look like some of the throttles from Marren
i will attatch marrens in this post for you to compare. looks to me as if you would have to have injectors plumbed in somewhere other than at the base of the throttle like the one i pictured. 
11-23-03, 05:46 AM
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Originally posted by vosko
if you have a dyno sheet you can see the power curve and figure out if helps or hinders street performance.
if you have a dyno sheet you can see the power curve and figure out if helps or hinders street performance.
Originally posted by vosko
again a dyno sheet would be great to look at of it on a real street car. come on keith you know you wanna put it on your car
again a dyno sheet would be great to look at of it on a real street car. come on keith you know you wanna put it on your car
i had a whole big thig typed out but i will make it short.... just wait for some other results and we will keep it at that.
Originally posted by vosko
if so there is no point in any person that doesn't plan on running 9's to buy this
if so there is no point in any person that doesn't plan on running 9's to buy this
so lets drop it.
11-23-03, 10:14 AM
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looks like a very nice piece... something overdue for our cars. since it is beautifully engineered i assume that runner length and volume either will or are dialed in. i have done alot of non-chassis dyno work and runner length is almost everything when making power. incorrect runner length/volume creates "stand-off" which destroys the proper harmonic and wrecks BSFC. the manifold might be designed with either adjustable length runners or 2 lengths for specific application.
congrats on what should eventually replace another oem piece.
howard coleman
congrats on what should eventually replace another oem piece.
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