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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 08:07 PM
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Christianity and Catholocism (yes not the same thing) also pay healthy homage to codependent behaviour as well.

I don't think Jeff ever was coming across as saying he didn't want to provide if he never received in return - but more so that it becomes tedious and unrewarding to provide and NEVER receive appreciation.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by clayne
but more so that it becomes tedious and unrewarding
Exactly, "unrewarding".

re·ward·ing ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-wôrdng)
adj.

1. Offering or likely to offer satisfaction or gratification: a very rewarding career as a paramedic.
2. Affording profit; remunerative: a rewarding business venture.
3. Constituting a reward: a rewarding hug.

If you ever look to receive them, then it doesn't bother you not getting them.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 10:08 PM
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There is a difference between an expectation following every instance and an expectation arising out of or facillitated by consistent behaviour over time.

They are not the same - nor is it black and white like offering with zero expecation vs offering with full expectation.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by clayne
There is a difference between an expectation following every instance and an expectation arising out of or facillitated by consistent behaviour over time.

They are not the same - nor is it black and white like offering with zero expecation vs offering with full expectation.
Not in my life. I place importance on certain things. Receiving praise/approval from a forum where I offer what little help I can, is not one of them.

You may think this is some facade, but it's not. This is who I am, believe it or not.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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I don't think that. I know that your posts are among the most helpful of this section of the forum. Hell, we could build an archive of just your posts.
Hmm, great idea! Next time I search and I come up with a million crappy hits, I'll filter by running thru some of the big posters. TTT, TurboJeff, ...

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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by JONSKI
Most of the time doing the right thing is it's own reward. I just wish my new shitty job would afford me more time to spend on the forum and help people who were exactly where I was about two years ago. In fact, I only slept two non-contiguous hours last night, and technically I'm supposed to be working right now. I'm sure you heavy hitters have been so for so long that you've forgotten what it's like to be a newbie. I just want to be like the people who were there for me when I was totally clueless.

Jonski was there for me when I was clueless! THANKS DUDE!
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 10:57 PM
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Jonski was there for me when I was clueless! THANKS DUDE!
wait.........i'm still clueless!!!!!

Originally posted by Mahjik
Nope, you are confused Jeff.

Asking for thanks and saying thanks are two completely different things. Giving praise and receiving praise are different. You give because you want to, not just so you can receive. I guess that's just a little of the Christianity coming out of me as it's always better to give than receive. .........
Mahjik! you sound like my Great Grandmother....And I mean that in a good way. Miss that old woman.

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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 11:06 PM
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Originally posted by Mahjik
I place importance on certain things. Receiving praise/approval from a forum where I offer what little help I can, is not one of them.

You may think this is some facade, but it's not. This is who I am, believe it or not.
Mahjik brings to the Forum an abundance of knowledge, expertise and patience not exhibited by any other Moderator on this site. He, is by far the best Moderator on this site!!. But I'm extremely biased.

You see, Mahjik was there when I posted my first "newb" question. He directed me then, as he always has, down the right path. I've seen him do this with most of the members time after time, after time. Not once has he used improper language, made arrogant remarks, or posted sarcastic, insipid replies. He defends his ground firmly, as he should, and does an outstanding job as a Moderator. I KNOW WE ALL AGREE.

He has never asked for, implied, or demanded, any thanks or aknowledgment for his assistance. Mahjik handels his position as a Moderator with a standard and professionalism that all forum members should practice.

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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 11:28 PM
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He directed me then, as he always has, down the right path.
Well, then you should return the favor by spelling his alias correctly, right?

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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 11:39 PM
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Well, then you should return the favor by spelling his alias correctly, right?

Mahjik
That's a perfect example of what I'm speaking of. For some unexplained reason, I've ALWAYS typed his name (Mahjik) with a (c) at the end. He and I have posted numerous times back and forth on the same thread. Not once has he ever corrected me. Not once. That ,in it of itself, says a lot about the Man.

BTW, thanks for the advise. It has been corrected.

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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 12:00 AM
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When did this turn into a "we love Mahjik" thread. I mean I know we all do, but I thought this was a therapy session for turbojeff.

Either way I think it's nice that we can all sit around and talk about our feelings on a Friday night. Very uncharacteristic of rx7club (Said with LOTS of sarcasm)
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 12:20 AM
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When did this turn into a "we love Mahjik" thread. I mean I know we all do, but I thought this was a therapy session for turbojeff.

Either way I think it's nice that we can all sit around and talk about our feelings on a Friday night. Very uncharacteristic of rx7club (Said with LOTS of sarcasm)
A heavy dose of medication after a good trip to the Therapist, always does me a lot of good
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 12:22 AM
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Originally posted by 911GT2
When did this turn into a "we love Mahjik" thread. I mean I know we all do, but I thought this was a therapy session for turbojeff.

Either way I think it's nice that we can all sit around and talk about our feelings on a Friday night. Very uncharacteristic of rx7club (Said with LOTS of sarcasm)
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 12:26 AM
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Hey, this IS a therapy session for me!

Most of you guys don't really know me, I'm 35, I've got a 4yr old daughter and a 1mo old. The newborn keeps a guy up at night. Most of the younger guys here will find it out later but there is a big difference between getting up at 3am for a booty call and getting up a 3am to change a diaper, LOL.

Maybe that is why I'm so grumpy lately, 4-6hr sleep night after night will do that to a guy.
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 12:31 AM
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....there is a big difference between getting up at 3am for a booty call and getting up a 3am to change a diaper, LOL.
Technically, that's still a booty call.
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 12:35 AM
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Originally posted by turbojeff
Hey, this IS a therapy session for me!

Maybe that is why I'm so grumpy lately, 4-6hr sleep night after night will do that to a guy.
Grumpy lately...you were grumpy before the new kid

And some of us routinely get by on 4-5 hours of sleep
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 12:42 AM
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if jimlab, turbojeff, damonb all stopped posting, this forum would die
agreed! i havent PMed jeff yet hehe, i usually ask questions in public... in public i would expect a little less posting of "gratitued" from the question asker, since other people are also reading. that being said i ALWAYS try to thank ANYONE that goes out of their way to help me! its the least that someone can do. ive also recieved a bunch of PM's from people asking specific questions, and so far everyone i have PM'ed with has been wonderful. im always friendly, and i think people pick up on that, and respond in a similar way. jeff's situation may be a little different because he has such a wealth of specific knowledge, so i imagine that people are PMing him to diagnose a perticular problem, and when they get their answer they just take the info and run away without even a thanks.

i think this may have to do with the maturity of many "new owners" of rx7's ... since the price on FD's has dropped we are seeing some younger and possibly less mature owners on the forum. so please, if you claim to have the maturity to be able to own, understand, and maintain such a difficult car... please show your maturity on the forum, and in PM's to other members. im not claiming to be the most mature member on the forum (im only 22) but regardless of ones age please show some social grace. id like to see the forum get better not worse, because i do care about it, and it has helped me very much. -heath


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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 01:28 AM
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ok...... if you dont want to help, dont...

useless thread, IMH"O"
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 01:29 AM
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notice i quoted the "O" !!!
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 05:21 AM
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i disagree... this is not a useless thread. please read what i posted 2 posts up
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 07:23 AM
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Originally posted by turbojeff
Hey, this IS a therapy session for me!

Most of you guys don't really know me, I'm 35, I've got a 4yr old daughter and a 1mo old. The newborn keeps a guy up at night. Most of the younger guys here will find it out later but there is a big difference between getting up at 3am for a booty call and getting up a 3am to change a diaper, LOL.

Maybe that is why I'm so grumpy lately, 4-6hr sleep night after night will do that to a guy.
I hear ya Jeff. It hasn't been that long ago for me on those late night poop/feeding sessions. Here is where half of my heart is located:

http://mahjik.homestead.com/files/ba...n_20040224.jpg

of course, the wife has the other half. I only have the one so I can't imagine dealing with two "yutes", but this one is more than I can handle on most days.

I know that when things are bothering me, the smile in that picture makes everything else seem trivial.
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 09:19 AM
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Then there's that keith guy. He don't even know which end of a screwdriver to hold
You mean he actually OWNS a screwdriver??

I thought they took all sharp objects away from him during the intake process...
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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I started out having something to say... but then as I was reading this thread someone along the way I lost all idea of what this thread was about lol.
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 04:41 PM
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I'm sorry man. I thought I said thanks but I guess I must hvae slipped.

Anyways thanks
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 11:47 PM
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*** PS i think we need some sort of subsection in the 3rd gen. section where we can post how-to stuff (you know all the common stuff, how-to pictorials, explanations) etc etc. the miata.net forum does this rather well (check it out if you dont know what im talking about -> http://miata.net/garage/ ). id be willing to contribute, and im sure many others would as well. a quick reference section would be good for everyone, and it would help keep the 3rd gen section free of the same old posts that everyone gets tired of. soooooooooo, anyone with me?? mods? how bout it? check out the miata.net link to see what i mean.... can we make something like that happen?? thanks . heres the link again http://miata.net/garage/
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I second this, it would be very helpful for everyone on the forum.
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