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Old 02-23-08, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dean52
Can you use the HKS Twin Power with a Haltec E6k EMS with out having to be an electrical engineer with a PHD in putting two systems together? If so is there value to getting the Twin power harness?
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Thats what i have and its simple!
Old 02-24-08, 08:36 AM
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Thanks "Busted 7". Assuming that I have an ignition lead for the leading and trailing coming from the Haltec that are curremtly used for the two MSD systems I have now. I'll get the HKS and go from there. May ask you for additional info if you don't mind.
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No pm if you want. The haltec wires to the ingniter, the coils are on there own harness, and when you use the hks harness it just plugs in! I do recomend getting a male/ female plug for the ingniter as the haltec harness soldiers in with out a plug. I like to be able to unplug all the components. Good luck.
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How did you hook up the tach? I've currently got two MSD boxes with tach output's and I don't think the HKS has a tach output.
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Originally Posted by Busted7
No pm if you want. The haltec wires to the ingniter, the coils are on there own harness, and when you use the hks harness it just plugs in! I do recomend getting a male/ female plug for the ingniter as the haltec harness soldiers in with out a plug. I like to be able to unplug all the components. Good luck.
Am I correct to assume that the trigger wires (white) on the MSD boxes is coming from the Ignitor, that I still can't locate. Was also wondering how/where did you get your tach feed. Mine is running off one of the MSD boxes
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+1 to HKS twinpower + harness

Great product, great result, easiest to install
Old 02-25-08, 06:57 PM
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I have been beta testing the AEM TWIN FIRE amps for some time now and they now work great . AEM has sent me several designes to test .The newest design has been working in my car for about two years and no failure .I am using four Jacobs C4 coils with homemade sparkplug wires using MSD 40 ohms per foot 8 mm wire . The new design AEM amps should be ready to ship in two or three weeks ,so I was told today . 2-25-08
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Well, it only took AEM about 5 years to sort out the problems

You'll be at DGRR this year right David?
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Originally Posted by GARCO MOTORWORKS
I have been beta testing the AEM TWIN FIRE amps for some time now and they now work great . AEM has sent me several designes to test .The newest design has been working in my car for about two years and no failure .I am using four Jacobs C4 coils with homemade sparkplug wires using MSD 40 ohms per foot 8 mm wire . The new design AEM amps should be ready to ship in two or three weeks ,so I was told today . 2-25-08
If I'm not mistaken, didn't the AEM amps have an issue with overheating or something like that.
Old 02-26-08, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by slo
There is a reason the Jacobs ignitons burn up FD lead coils, the jacobs puts more power and charge time to the coil than it can handle,

The twin power aparantly doesn't.

Yes the FC coils are more robust.

I'm running 2 cheap 120 dollar each summit digital CDI boxes which are sililar in output specs to an MSD digital 6 on 2 seprate old school accell super coils that I got for free, running one too each plug, this is on the leading, I see no point in modifying the trailing ignition.

This 250 dollars worth of lead ignition will jump a ~6" gap in open air between a plug wire and the block and has no problem what so ever keeping up with 50/50 water alcohol or 100% methanol.


I was looking at those same coils myself for my NA 20b. I don't see why everyone keeps upgrading the trailing side or even paying for some really expensive MSD DIS4's. This ignition stuff just confuses me. Anyways aren't those accell coils rpm limited? Everyone I saw in the summit catalog showed "effective to xxxx rpm".


Edit after really thinking about it, I may just go with 1 MSD DIS-4 to control my 3 leading 20b plugs to save space.

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You have to look at duty cycle of the coil. Most the older performance coils when they say effective to 7000 rpm, thats on a distributed V8, so the coil is fireing 4 times per rev. On a rotary engine the coil will never fire more than twice per rev and thats on a 13b running wasted spark on the lead, on a 20B or 13B with direct ignition, they never fire more than once per rev.



Originally Posted by t-von
I was looking at those same coils myself for my NA 20b. I don't see why everyone keeps upgrading the trailing side or even paying for some really expensive MSD DIS4's. This ignition stuff just confuses me. Anyways aren't those accell coils rpm limited? Everyone I saw in the summit catalog showed "effective to xxxx rpm".


Edit after really thinking about it, I may just go with 1 MSD DIS-4 to control my 3 leading 20b plugs to save space.
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Busted 7, any idea where you can buy the coil harness, with connectors to all three coils?
Old 03-09-08, 05:38 PM
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Go to the 3rd gen sale site here and ask. Also jamespond on here probley has one, or malloy mazda 1-880-484-8170. Hows it comming?
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