idle help
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idle help
really really really do need advice and help
my car will only idle at 4,000rpm
what can I do to fix this? where do I start ? what to adjust ?
I have been buying and collecting parts and building this car for 19 months, everything is assembled, when i turn the key the motor goes straight for 4k RPMs, I have not a clue how to fix this and have no way to properly time it at this engine speed?
someone has to know something, come on i need your advice
my car will only idle at 4,000rpm
what can I do to fix this? where do I start ? what to adjust ?
I have been buying and collecting parts and building this car for 19 months, everything is assembled, when i turn the key the motor goes straight for 4k RPMs, I have not a clue how to fix this and have no way to properly time it at this engine speed?
someone has to know something, come on i need your advice
My hard drive crashed so I lost all my bookmarks but this should help you out.
This was the issue for my horrible idle (2k idle and sticking at 4k)
http://www.fd3s.net/tps_adjustment.html
EDIT
Here is the one that I was looking for. Great page.
http://www.rx7.org/Robinette/tps_adj.htm
This was the issue for my horrible idle (2k idle and sticking at 4k)
http://www.fd3s.net/tps_adjustment.html
EDIT
Here is the one that I was looking for. Great page.
http://www.rx7.org/Robinette/tps_adj.htm
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i don't think i have any vaccum leaks. I'm not going to spray carb cleaner anywhere near my engine so unless you have another way lets move on to the Throttle Position Sensor and how i can get it to work
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Do this, Unplug the TPS and see how it idles. With mine unplugged it would jump around but wouldnt die unless the throttle was opened.
So unplug it and see if it still continues to jump to 4k.
Nice setup BTW
So unplug it and see if it still continues to jump to 4k.
Nice setup BTW
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thanks you two for the advice, I called it a night for today. Tomorrow I will get up and give it another shot, I will try to start this beast without the TPS on and post what is the result. ps I un-connected the throttle cable because at first I thought the cable was causing tension which caused the car to idle so high. Now i know this isnt that case.
The TPS is fine that way, thats how mine is and mine idles correctly now.
loosen the 2 bolts holding the tps in and move it around a bit and see if it effects your idle, if it does, get a multimeter and start adjusting it like the webpages I posted say. GL
loosen the 2 bolts holding the tps in and move it around a bit and see if it effects your idle, if it does, get a multimeter and start adjusting it like the webpages I posted say. GL
Also DONT over tourqe the bolts holding the TPS in, they dont need to be tourqed to much to have a good hold, they will snap off in there. Also the TPS is pretty brittle so when you are adjusting it dont have hulk hands and try to force it or it will break.
i doubt it's the TPS adjustment itself, since all the idle control solenoids have been removed. if it was around 3k or less i might see it as a possibility but not for an engine creeping up to 5k without any throttle input. large vacuum leak or hung up throttle arms.
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so to check the hung throttle arms? not framiler with that term, is there a piece i need to lubricate if its stuck?
and to use the multimeter ? how does that tool work ?
and to use the multimeter ? how does that tool work ?
TPS adjustment And for the throttle arms take off your "elbow" attached to the throttle body and move the throttle by hand and see how the butterfly valves move.
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no offense, I don't know how to use a multimeter volt reader properly so that link is very hard for me to understand, trying to figure it out. the scale it reads on is confuesing as well as the process which you test it
pull the PFC commander into the engine bay and adjust it using that. VTA1 is narrow range voltage and VTA2 is full range voltage. no multimeter needed.
you really should learn how to use one though
you really should learn how to use one though
but the TPS is reading 0 volts while connected, i don't believe that is possible unless the TPS is installed incorrectly, the 5 volt reference driver is dying or grounding out somewhere or the ground circuit is failing to the sensor.
in any case, i suppose twisting the TPS while reading the hand controller may give an idea to ruling out some of that. beyond that you'll have to find a manual for a DVOM, just about any non scaling DVOM manual will give you the basics on how to read it. it's too time consuming for me to write it all out. but to get you started, hook up the black lead to the negative battery terminal, red lead to the wire you're reading. turn the DVOM switch on or turn the dial to DCV(direct current volts) and scale to 10/12/20(different DVOMs use a different scale for 2 digit volts).
in any case, i suppose twisting the TPS while reading the hand controller may give an idea to ruling out some of that. beyond that you'll have to find a manual for a DVOM, just about any non scaling DVOM manual will give you the basics on how to read it. it's too time consuming for me to write it all out. but to get you started, hook up the black lead to the negative battery terminal, red lead to the wire you're reading. turn the DVOM switch on or turn the dial to DCV(direct current volts) and scale to 10/12/20(different DVOMs use a different scale for 2 digit volts).
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Afghx I will read up on how to operate one of these DVOM tools. Thanks for the head start on understanding, now all i need to figure out is the scale which it displays in and what that means.
Karack I will flip the TPS to aim the other way and try it out, I cannot imagine that this is the issue because it worked flawlessly in this position for 25k miles on the previous motor.
One thing that has been changed since last time it ran was
I removed 100% of the stuff from the engine bay, cleaned everything, then painted the whole bay. Maybe the TPS ground is not grounded properly? does this sound reasonable ?
thx for the advice
Karack I will flip the TPS to aim the other way and try it out, I cannot imagine that this is the issue because it worked flawlessly in this position for 25k miles on the previous motor.
One thing that has been changed since last time it ran was
I removed 100% of the stuff from the engine bay, cleaned everything, then painted the whole bay. Maybe the TPS ground is not grounded properly? does this sound reasonable ?
thx for the advice
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