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Old 05-13-06, 07:42 AM
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Exclamation I simply changed my fuel pump and now the car is hard to start

Here's my problem, I changed my fuel pump for a used Denso Supra TT and since then I have to put the gaz pedal to the metal to start the car. I know the pump is bigger and has a bigger flow but what could be the cause ?

- Defective fuel pump ?
- Stock injectors ?
- Ignition (spark plugs) ?
- Fuel pressure regulator ?

BTW is it always good to put the key at "accessories" for a couple of seconds before starting the car to let the fuel pump send an amount of fuel ?

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leave the key to on for a bit to prime the system...
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Even if I do that the car will crank over but nothing happens it's like there's not enough fuel to start the engine. However, if I push the gaz pedal while cranking the engine would start.

I've never pushed the gaz pedal with stock fuel pump so I want to know why I have to do this now after simply changing the fuel pump...
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You need to check the install. I have seen this happen before and it was the pump not sealing to the stock assembly.
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old post, yes i know, but i am having the same problem. car was runnin fine but then installed the pump and same crap is happening. also when i try to get on it it, it starts to detonate real bad. any other ideas?
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http://www.rx7.org/Robinette/release_fuel.htm

Read the part on how to prime the fuel system.
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Originally Posted by VegasFD
http://www.rx7.org/Robinette/release_fuel.htm

Read the part on how to prime the fuel system.

will this help with my detonation problem? i didnt have detonatnion til i installed the pump.
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How are you diagnosing it has detonation? It would be hard to detonate on startup.
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Originally Posted by VegasFD
How are you diagnosing it has detonation? It would be hard to detonate on startup.
nah not on start up. car starts up fine, just gotta give it gas but when i get on the road itll start detonating when i get on it. it didnt happen til after the fuel pump install
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nah not on start up. car starts up fine, just gotta give it gas but when i get on the road itll start detonating when i get on it. it didnt happen til after the fuel pump install
How do you know its 'detonation'?
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
How do you know its 'detonation'?
off of the sound comin from the exhaust. sounds like fireworks coming out of the exhaust. like i stated before, car was runnin great before the install. imma take everything apart again and double check everything. just wanting to know if there is a simple fix maybe? before i take it all apart?
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This is for gotparts, you said when you step on the gas the exhaust starts backfiring and sounds like fireworks. My car was doing this for a while, and I read a post that is you disconnect the neg. batt. terminal and step on the brake pedal for 30 seconds and it will reset the fuel system, so i tried it and my car didnt do the bucking firework like exhaust anymore. it drove fine. When you step on the gas does it hesitate bad too. If you have a tuned ECU dont do this as it will reset the ECU also. Give it a try.
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Originally Posted by Rex7-93
This is for gotparts, you said when you step on the gas the exhaust starts backfiring and sounds like fireworks. My car was doing this for a while, and I read a post that is you disconnect the neg. batt. terminal and step on the brake pedal for 30 seconds and it will reset the fuel system, so i tried it and my car didnt do the bucking firework like exhaust anymore. it drove fine. When you step on the gas does it hesitate bad too. If you have a tuned ECU dont do this as it will reset the ECU also. Give it a try.
ill try it out bud. i have the apexi pfc running off the base mod map that came with it. ill try it out. any other ideas?
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Im not sure if doing this will mess with the base map on the power FC, i had mine tuned a bit so i never disconnected the battery with the Power FC. and thats all that i can think of. If not that, it must be the fuel pump. Good Luck.
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i really appreciate it man. ill check it out now. ill keep u posted!
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argh!!!! still does the same thing. me and my father just took it all apart and is doing the same thing still. hard to start. fire cracker sound coming out the tail pipe. anybody?
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I'm the one that started this thread and in my case it was faulty fuel pump so I suggest you to try another one and check if all the o-rings are sealed correctly to the assembly.
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Get a fuel pressure gauge (which you should have if you are upgrading your fuel pump) and see what your pressure is with the new fuel pump.
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Originally Posted by RX7 Rotary Rocket
I'm the one that started this thread and in my case it was faulty fuel pump so I suggest you to try another one and check if all the o-rings are sealed correctly to the assembly.
alright bud thanks man. crap. it goes spacer then oring on top then the plastic clip right?
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Originally Posted by RX7 Rotary Rocket
I'm the one that started this thread and in my case it was faulty fuel pump so I suggest you to try another one and check if all the o-rings are sealed correctly to the assembly.

was your car detonating when u got on it?
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Originally Posted by gotparts?
argh!!!! still does the same thing. me and my father just took it all apart and is doing the same thing still. hard to start. fire cracker sound coming out the tail pipe. anybody?
If the car is also falling on its face while there is a firecracker sound coming from the exhaust it's not detonation, you're not sustaining fuel pressure. The most likely reason being your pump was installed incorrectly and is leaking internally inside the tank, or the pump itself is bad. Check the fuel pressure.
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Originally Posted by DamonB
If the car is also falling on its face while there is a firecracker sound coming from the exhaust it's not detonation, you're not sustaining fuel pressure. The most likely reason being your pump was installed incorrectly and is leaking internally inside the tank, or the pump itself is bad. Check the fuel pressure.
right on the dot! i just took the pump back apart and saw that the oring was not sitting correctly. re did everything, put it back together and started right up. took it on a spin and runs perfect!!! thanks all for the help and suggestions!
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