that isit bill, exaclty what i was gonna say next :-)

 

I have another question and hoping for an answer. I saw in one of the responses

..and ur right, if you use a 6pt, you will want a rollbar unless you want the roof to crush ur head on a roll, and my track car does have a roll bar :-)

So does your head not get crushed with a regular seat belt? Does the six point keep you more upright in a crash and is this why you have to worry about your head?

Thanks
Claus

 

well, that is what i have been told, it all depends on the accident and how the car rolls, I would do more research to be sure if i were you

 

re: street-legal aftermarket harnesses: look for Schroeth, they make a few DOT-approved setups, which are legal for highway use in the United States.


re: belts & roll bars. Imagine your car rolls over, and the roof crushes in. If you are strapped tightly into your seat by a racing harness, your neck and spine are likely to compress, causing a lot of damage. If you are wearing a regular (stock) seatbelt, you should have enough slack to allow your body to bend at the hips, slide a little bit down in the seat, and hopefully avoid compressing your spine or breaking your neck. A roll cage will prevent the roof from crushing in.

-s-

 

Scotty,
Thanks, that was what I was thinking. I changed the seats in the car and had to manufacture new brackets. It is all very solid but I still don't necessarely like the stock belt set-up where the seat belt attaches to the seat. Your lap and shoulder strap both pull at the same mounting point. I would rather mount the belt to the body. Am I wrong here? Are there any benefits to have the belt mounted to the seat (obviousely the stock belt will be easier to strap into if it moves with the seat)

So, I guess you need the cage to use the harness. Then you need the helmet to use the cage. Not a good thing if you pick up a date....

Claus

 

z8cw: the Schroth (I spelled it wrong in the above post) Rallye 4 harnesses are DOT approved and should be OK for street use. http://www.soloracer.com/rallye4.html

The AutoControl harness uses an inertia-reel system just like the factory shoulder belt (retracts or locks depending on what the car is doing): if you car is mostly street-driven, I would look into a system like this: http://www.soloracer.com/autocontrol.html

Also here's a great page, showing some mounting point advice, from Schroth. http://www.soloracer.com/harnschrothfaq.html

-s-

 

If you remember looking at the stock seat rails, the belt clip has an additional reinforced hard point that it mounts to behind the seat against the tranny tunnel. The belt should not be mounted to the seat directly, simply because the seat slide rails are not strong enough.

As far as using harnesses in a non roll bar car, their are mixed feelings on this. Some feel that the additional safety offered by the harness more than offsets the roll over danger. Others feel that it doesn't. Both sides of the discussion have very knowledgable people giving their opinions.

-bill

 

Thanks again guys,
I will check out these links. I am building the car for track use (road course) but was only allowed to buy it if the wife can drive it around on the street. So there you have it. Now everything has to be a compromise.....

 

Sorry to bring this thread up from the dead. I ordered more eye bolts and snap hooks so I could easily remove the harness when not in use.

In the instructions, for just normal bolts, it talks about tightening down to 30ft/lb.

How do you do that with these eye bolts?

 

1ft screwdriver though bolt, apply 30 lbs. I think you just have to guesstimate. You can grab the eye bolts with an adjustable wrench, too. Or maybe use a Gator Grip socket and a real torque wrench. Whatever you use, be careful not to weaken the eye bolt with tool marks.

-Max

 

thanks max!

 

yup, what he said :-)

I used a screw driver and just tighten almost as hard as i can.