damian

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If you are looking for a great price on a harness, try http://www.discoveryparts.com.

They sell g-force harnesses, so if your not a g-force fan, don't bother, but I must say that my harness is very nice and for the price it is unmatched. I can provide pics and more details if you guys want.

I purchased the 6 point camlock and love it. It was on backorder and as soon as it came in DiscoveryParts overnighted the harness to me and I got it the next day. I delt with a person by the name of Ron and he gave me excellent service. Constant email updates on my order, and even called a few time to let me know my options. (even paid for the overnight shipping since I had to wait from the backorder). This was probably the best service I have ever experienced from an online purchase, and I'm a computer geek, so I buy everything online. :-)

I recommend them if you are looking for a great harness and a great price. Tell them Damian sent you.

(I have no affiliation with them at all, just a happy customer.)

This is what I got, but mine is red. I also got some mounting harware too.

jwhite94RX7

So how much did it cost?

Have you installed it yet?

xstacy7

Hey Damian, that is a nice harness...do you have the stock seats?

damian

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hey guys,

Jim,
It was only $114.99 for the harness. I have it partly installed, I need a few more eye bolts (order today) for the bottom strap. I did a test 'strap in' with just the shoulder and waist belts and it fit really nice and works well with the stock seats. I mounted the shoulder straps to the m2 reat strut bar mounts (you probably read about that fiasco), and the waist belts to the stock seat belt mounting holes. Easy install. Next time we get our cars together you can take a look at it.

xstacy7,
I do have the stock seats and they work well, I think I will make a hole in the middle of the bottom of the seat for the crotch strap to come out of at a proper angle, but if you get a 4 point this is not an issue.

jwhite94RX7

Are they long enough to attach to the floor of the hatch area (i.e., below and behind the strut bar)? I seem to recall Steve Ciarcia having to have his Simpson straps extended.

jwhite94RX7

Are they long enough to attach to the floor of the hatch area (i.e., below and behind the strut bar)? I seem to recall Steve Ciarcia having to have his Simpson straps extended.

DamonB

Damian, since you are using the M2 harness bar, what is the length of your shoulder straps? I am ordering a harness soon myself.

damian

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well, I just took look at it and i think if you went all the way to the end of the strap length you could get about a foot back from the strut bar, on the hatch floor, and still be ok for stap adjustment length in the front.

This guess-tament was with the seat way up (wear I sit for my short legs to reach the pedals) and with about 8" of adjustment length.

damian

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hmm, dunno the length, check the site out for details... but i do know that the straps are very adjustable, and if you use the m2 bar you will have a lot of strap to play with.

allenhah

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Regarding the install to the stock lap belt locations, do you leave the stock belt in place as well and bolt the harness brackets over the stock ones, or do you remove them completely? You can still use your stock seat belts, correct?

damian

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I still used my stock belts. just bolted the harness over the stock since the eyehook is above the stock brackets.

allenhah

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Cool. Do you guys think that places too much shear stress on the bolt? I haven't actually seen how the harnesses bolt, but from what I'm envisioning, it seems that you'd be placing quite a bit of extra stress on a pretty critical bolt.

Just curious...thinking of getting a harness for my ride as well.

damian

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I used an eye bolt that replaces the stock bolt, its meant to take that direction of force, but you have to replace the standard harness latches with 'clip' latches.
I highly suggest doing it this way because it will be awkward to get the standarg harness latches to fit in there without eyehook bolts.

I'll take pics and post them when i get a chance.

skunks

you are using at least 4 inchX1/4 thick reinforced backing plates correct? if not yoru eyebolts will just rip out in a crash impaling you into your steering wheel.

also, i hope you have a full cage as well as snell rated helmet and some sort of hans device when you intend to use the 5-6pt harness.

BTW: thats a low amount for a 6pt harness (the lowest i have ever seen!). are these new harnesses?

oh yeah how thick are the belts? im assuming 3 inchs

saxyman990

Damian - good stuff bro! I use basically the same harness installed virtually identical to the way you have it. I think the only difference is that mine is their 5-point(purchased it at a different place though, for about the same price). I am currently using the Rotary Extreme Harness Bar. Awesome piece of equipment and I can't wait to try it out once the weather starts warming up a bit! But so far, I definately recommend this setup to anyone who likes to get some track time in on their car.


Skunks: Damian is using the factory mounting locations for the sides, they are already reinforced and do not require a backing plate. The only bolts that needs backing are the anti-sub straps. It's not too likely that they'll break free (they don't see the same loads that the shoulder and lap belts see), and if they do, you're more likely to die from the shoulder and lap belts crushing your ribs, then from impact to the steering wheel.

Good work Damian! Great minds think alike I suppose...

Rob

damian

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yes skunks, new harnesses, i ordered 2 gforce-camlock, 6pt from them ( http://www.discoveryparts.com )and just purchased another product from them too (air duct), great to deal with and when they have the stuff in stock it is at my door within days. the belts are 3" and pretty high quality for being gforce brand, I am really happy with mine.

..and ur right, if you use a 6pt, you will want a rollbar unless you want the roof to crush ur head on a roll, and my track car does have a roll bar :-)

also, if your doing it for high speed driving you will want to use backing plates to secure the eyebolts, but for low speed autoX it is probably overkill. (just as a 6pt harness is overkill for autoX too...but very cool to have anyway .....heheheh)


also wanted to mention the force the belts are pulling on the eyebolts is not vertical but more lateral. I would think the eybolt would bent sideways before geting laterally forced out of the hole....but im no expert.

damian

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Thanks Rob :-) ... your right, our setups are very similar (my rear strut/harness bar is the m2). my sub is a 6 pt and what i did to mount it was tap the holes of the 2 front seat bolts to fit the harness eyebolts, that was it, perfect fit for the 2 pt sub strap, then cut a hole in the seat and used a spearco seat clip thingy to make it look all nice where the sub strap comes out of.

I'll post pics of it all if you guys want. the hole in the seat, the harnesses, the eyebolt locations, et, et... just let me know and I'll post it all :-)

damian

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>>Skunks: Damian is using the factory mounting locations for the sides, they are already reinforced and do not require a backing plate.

I think he ment that they would strip out, so using backing plates with a bolt on teh back side to prevent them from stripping out on crash level loads.

allenhah

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Post all pics please!!
=]

saxyman990

Nice! In retrospect, the 6pt system would have been a much easier and cleaner way of doing it. I had to drill a hole underneath the seat and mount another eye-bolt there for my antisub strap. That was kind of a pain.

Definately post a pic of the seat. I'm curious as to how that works and what it looks like.

saxyman990

Exactly. I know what he meant. I was just saying that the the lap belts points do not require this, as the factory bolt-in location is already reinforced (they can handle to load of a wreck perfectly fine). The only points that need reinforcing (to insure they won't pop through your floor) are the anti-sub straps.

damian

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ok, ill get my pics together and post them when i get a chance...

1QWIK7

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sorry for bringing this thread back from the dead but i have a question regarding this..

i know he said he can use the 5-6 point harness with the stock seat but what about a 4 point? and also, i dont know about other states or whatever but do you think its legal to not use your stock belt and just the harness when driving? i know it might be dumb but if you use your stock belt during everyday driving, what are you gonna do with the connected harness? sit on it? so i was thinking if wearing 4,5, 6 point harnesses illegal?

and also, for the guys who use their fd for track racing only, did you remove the stock belts or did you leave them there??

thanks

damian

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cym 93 track car = no stock belts

however, when i was trackin my blue 95 and put he harness is (that was when i did this thread) I just dont use the stock belt when i used the harness, you can have them both hooked up to the car and only use on e or the other if you install it correctly

wrankin

a 4-point (IIRC) is simply a 5 or 6 point system without the sub belt.

almost all 4, 5 and 6 point harnesses are not DOT approved and cannot be used legally on the street. so keep your stock belt in.

for street cars, you can mount your harness using eye bolts and spring clips that will allow the lap belts to be easily removed between track events. the two shoulder straps can either be clip mounted or permanently wrapped around the harness/roll bar.

-bill