I apologies to M2 for my mistake.
05-23-03, 06:13 PM
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I apologies to M2 for my mistake.
I need to apologise to M2. I had a fit becasue I purchased their harness/strut bar and it would not go on, as well has a few other flaws that seemed not acceptable to me. However I WAS able to finally get the bar on.
Although there is still an issue with getting the third stud nut on due to the proximity of the stud hole and the side wall, over all this is an excellent product and I suggest it to anyone wanting a VERY solid strut bar with built in/pre-threaded harness holes and cargo cover latch holes.
To M2, thanks for a nice product and sorry for my lack of patience in this matter.
Although there is still an issue with getting the third stud nut on due to the proximity of the stud hole and the side wall, over all this is an excellent product and I suggest it to anyone wanting a VERY solid strut bar with built in/pre-threaded harness holes and cargo cover latch holes.
To M2, thanks for a nice product and sorry for my lack of patience in this matter.
05-23-03, 07:45 PM
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Damian, props for the apology to M2. You should post your fix pics and add this link to the original post to help if others that may have the same problem.
Damian, props for the apology to M2. You should post your fix pics and add this link to the original post to help if others that may have the same problem.
05-24-03, 12:54 AM
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Originally posted by SanJoRX7
How did you, or do you plan to, remedy the third nut problem? Seems like that would be kind of a deal breaker, considering your life hangs in the balance.
Patrick
How did you, or do you plan to, remedy the third nut problem? Seems like that would be kind of a deal breaker, considering your life hangs in the balance.
Patrick
by the way, i dont have an issue with just 2 nuts holding the harness 'weight' because the forces are in the direction that is supported, however its the fact that the bracket can be a bit tilted and only by getting the 3rd nut tightened down can you be sure the bracket becomes flush to the car frame, that is my issue with it.
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05-24-03, 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by GoRacer
That was Damian, props for the apology to M2. You should post your fix pics and add this link to the original post to help if others that may have the same problem.
That was
Damian, props for the apology to M2. You should post your fix pics and add this link to the original post to help if others that may have the same problem.
I will definetly try to post pics and notes when i get a chance.
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05-24-03, 01:15 AM
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Did you apologize b/c you felt that it was the honorable thing to do even though the parts you posted look like a hack job or did you apologize b/c somebody threatened a libel/lawsuit on you?
I still think that brace thing looked like ****. If it were designed for mounting to 3 nuts, it'd better fit. That is like buying a four door car but only three doors will close.
I still think that brace thing looked like ****. If it were designed for mounting to 3 nuts, it'd better fit. That is like buying a four door car but only three doors will close.
05-24-03, 01:24 AM
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Why the apology? You shouldn't buy a bolt on product and then have to modify it to fit. Unless it was understood that some modification might be required, I would also be upset that the bar I bought doesn't fit properly. Do you think that M2 will accept the bar back and replace it if you end up hacking the bar up to make it fit?
05-24-03, 01:26 AM
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Originally posted by pomanferrari
Did you apologize b/c you felt that it was the honorable thing to do even though the parts you posted look like a hack job or did you apologize b/c somebody threatened a libel/lawsuit on you?
I still think that brace thing looked like ****. If it were designed for mounting to 3 nuts, it'd better fit. That is like buying a four door car but only three doors will close.
Did you apologize b/c you felt that it was the honorable thing to do even though the parts you posted look like a hack job or did you apologize b/c somebody threatened a libel/lawsuit on you?
I still think that brace thing looked like ****. If it were designed for mounting to 3 nuts, it'd better fit. That is like buying a four door car but only three doors will close.
Like i mentioned above, the third nut thig is still questionable.... however I have to say once the bar is on and secured, it does look good and has all the things I wanted (harness holse, cargo holes, et)
05-24-03, 01:28 AM
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Originally posted by neevosh
Why the apology? You shouldn't buy a bolt on product and then have to modify it to fit. Unless it was understood that some modification might be required, I would also be upset that the bar I bought doesn't fit properly. Do you think that M2 will accept the bar back and replace it if you end up hacking the bar up to make it fit?
Why the apology? You shouldn't buy a bolt on product and then have to modify it to fit. Unless it was understood that some modification might be required, I would also be upset that the bar I bought doesn't fit properly. Do you think that M2 will accept the bar back and replace it if you end up hacking the bar up to make it fit?
05-24-03, 01:05 PM
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This is the reason I WILL NOT buy anything from M2. I have ordered on three differant occasions from M2 and three differant times I got parts that didn't fit. I did get a refund on the brake lines after they forgot about my reorder on the lines after my first set didn't fit. It's just sad. They have good ideas and VERY poor execution. Most of the parts are made by fab. shops but ****, can you at least test fit your damn products before they go out? It's really like they just don't care.
05-24-03, 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by damian
...by the way, i dont have an issue with just 2 nuts holding the harness 'weight' because the forces are in the direction that is supported, however its the fact that the bracket can be a bit tilted and only by getting the 3rd nut tightened down can you be sure the bracket becomes flush to the car frame, that is my issue with it.
...by the way, i dont have an issue with just 2 nuts holding the harness 'weight' because the forces are in the direction that is supported, however its the fact that the bracket can be a bit tilted and only by getting the 3rd nut tightened down can you be sure the bracket becomes flush to the car frame, that is my issue with it.
Or better yet, get M2 to send a properly fitting bracket...
05-24-03, 08:52 PM
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>>So if you're saying that you plan to grind the M2 bracket to allow the 3rd nut to be properly tightened, that's good.
this one :-)
I may be able to minimize grinding, by 'rubber hammering' the bracket so that the stud is as far to the outside of the hole as possible to allow for more nut space (did i just say nut space?)
this one :-)
I may be able to minimize grinding, by 'rubber hammering' the bracket so that the stud is as far to the outside of the hole as possible to allow for more nut space (did i just say nut space?)
05-25-03, 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by damian
I was able to get it on, but I will probably have to hack it a bit to get the 3rd nut in place.... that is a differnet issue.
I was able to get it on, but I will probably have to hack it a bit to get the 3rd nut in place.... that is a differnet issue.
Even if you don't believe your life depends on those last nuts for the harness bar, the upper strut mounts would at least appreciate having all their mounting nuts. They were there to begin with for a reason.
Your relations and comments about M2 are whatever you feel is relevant, but please do not use this bar for its intended purpose if it cannot be installed correctly. You've already determined that in fact it can't be installed correctly so do the right thing for all concerned and ask for a replacement.
05-25-03, 08:12 PM
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I have to admit that while I probably wouldn't have reacted in quite the same way, Damian, I think you definitely have something to be miffed about. You pay some good money for a product that's *supposed* to fit properly (i.e. no modification...bolt on and go).
If M2 has anyone that frequents this board, they ought to be aware of the prevailing sentiment about their quality and timeliness (i.e. consistently below everyone's standards).
I, for one, will try and avoid M2's products to the best of my ability...no reason to put up with inferior quality and service if something else is out there for about the same amount of money (and let's face it, M2's not cheap).
I'd try and get them to fix it, or have them revamp their design so that it either 1) has only 2 mounting points per side, or 2) can make legitimate use of the 3rd mounting hole by way of fixing the positioning and such on the bar so that subsequent bars don't have this issue. You'd think that someone would have QA'd the work on this thing
If M2 has anyone that frequents this board, they ought to be aware of the prevailing sentiment about their quality and timeliness (i.e. consistently below everyone's standards).
I, for one, will try and avoid M2's products to the best of my ability...no reason to put up with inferior quality and service if something else is out there for about the same amount of money (and let's face it, M2's not cheap).
I'd try and get them to fix it, or have them revamp their design so that it either 1) has only 2 mounting points per side, or 2) can make legitimate use of the 3rd mounting hole by way of fixing the positioning and such on the bar so that subsequent bars don't have this issue. You'd think that someone would have QA'd the work on this thing
05-26-03, 12:12 AM
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you guys both make good points, for me a lot of it is the hassle, its probably less hassle to grind it a bit, get my nut on and be able to use my harness and mount my camera (the main reasons for getting this bar)...if i make all these requests for a fixed bar then i may not get to use my harness/camera until I get a new part from m2,, et, et.......well, eithier way im content with it now
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