brillo

Ok, I've done alot of research here and other places about the car, its quarks, benifits issues etc. Now I've found a 93 red FD, no sunroof that has 100K but it has a rebuilt engine. sounds like they have replaced the clutch in it as well. I'm going to go look at it this weekend, where I can get a better idea of the quality, but I have no idea what I would pay for it if its in good shape (its all stock). She wants $15K, even if i select every option on edmunds used car calculator and make it in outstanding condition I only get to about $8K. where is the disconnect? how much does the engine rebuild add? Is there collector value built in here?

Thanks for the advice.

pugg57

$15k is ALOT for a bone stock car with 100k miles on it
i paid $19 for mine and it only had 32k on it and was in cherry condition (for the most part). you will end up paying more than book value on it because it is a "quasi collectors" car due to a small cult following. i was say more like $10-11k would be right for that car... but that's just this reporters opinion happy hunting

esebueno

i just paid $7.5k for a 93 R1 w/ a blown motor and bad turbos...

esebueno

the thing about edmuds....is that they dont account for the new engine or clutch...they assume standard depreciation and orig. parts.
so she figures 8k (edmuds or KBB price) + 4-5k for rebuilt engine + say 600 for a new clutch...still only about 14k at the most...then assume wear and tear and possibly tranny probs or something.
the engine: well...she may have had it rebuilt...but was it with 2mm or 3mm apex seals? and also who knows if shes driven it hard since then (unlikely, but possible).
Id say no more than 11-12k for that car depending on the condition (REALLY good condition, then think about bringin up the price...but check paint condition, interior condition, etc).
Have the car thoroughly checked out and check for clutch slipping/5th gear synchro probs/etc. because chances are she isnt a pro with these cars...
g'luck tho

Rx-7Addict

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No more than 11-12k

Over 100k =

esebueno

i duno...its all relative to the car hes lookin at.
YES problems do go up (suspension, tranny, clutch, engine, etc) but if most of those things were done and new vacuum lines, plug wires, plugs, and all that when the rebuild was done...the he should be fine.
Might want to lookin into a set of new struts and stuff (or if youre goin to lower it anyway...)
but ya, of course there are some other things to worry about too...but for an affordable price range....not much better you can get....low mileage fds run 15k+

make sure to check on:
suspension
hoses (vacuum lines)
turbos
engine
plugs/plug wires
radiator
wire harness (gets brittle)
etc

black99

I paid 6k for a oh so clean '93 with 80k and 1k on almost everything rebuilt.. The trick, it hit a guardrail at a supposed 15mph.. Still car isn't that bad only needing fender, bumper, lights, etc and picked up a deal. Although wouldn't recommend this to someone who doesn't know the cars very well or work on their own cars.

All in all I think I agree with everyone and it's a bit much for that car as far as going rate. I would say about 12k would be going rate for that car.


LAMotorCars which is in Richardson, if that's close to you has a black '93 with red interior, and 64k miles for 15,995. I think it looks pretty good and would pick it up in a heartbeat before the other one you're speaking of.

http://www.autotrader.com/dealers/vi...s=IVNDNBMGDS51

Rx-7Addict

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I wouldnt say 15,995 is a good price at all for that car. I paid $12k for a 93 that was stock with 61k which sounds like a very similar car to what you are looking at. This was about a month ago

esebueno

12k for a 61k mile FD!?
****...thats a good price...
anything wrong with it? (orig motor or somethin?)

turbojeff

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Edmunds is typically very low. Do the same comparision on other popular cars and see if there is a disconnect.

Price the same car on www.kbb.com and see what you come up with.

Otherwise $15K for a 100K mile FD might be a little high. With these cars condition is far more important than mileage. I've seen cherry 125K mile cars and thrashed 55K mile cars.

dexmex88

I don't understand these numbers, I only paid $8200 for my 7 that had a brand new paint job, 71k miles, only cost me $450 to fix it!

onefast3gen

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I paid 13,500, i bought my car with around 65,000 miles, cant exactly remember the exact amount. Me and boy went to go pick it up out in ohio and i live in nyc, we drove out there with his tahoe and trailer after i found the car on ebay. the engine was mint the interior was mint and the body had very little dings and very minor scratches it looked like most cars do that are 2 years old in nyc meen while it is a 93. The second i saw it i new i was taking it. i drove it, it drove perfect, 10-8-10 boost patern, the only gauge it had was a boost gauge.
it also had a dp and greddy exasut and apexi turbo timer, besides that it was stock, i looked under the car it looked bran new, i had the car for a year so far i love it no problems.

jajiddam

11k or 12k sounds good... it does really depend on the condition of the body. Find out what works and what doesn't. Bring this to her attention and ask her to bring the price down so that you can fix it and you buy the car... I'm sure if she knows how serious you are, she will work w/ ya...

Rx-7Addict

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Yes, orignal motor and turbos, but I had it tuned by Jason at the RX-7store after my mods were put on and he said the turbos were perfect and the engine was VERY strong. Said the car was very healthy, so I feel like I got a great deal.

Only prob really was the mirrors and front bumper were faded and the pretty much standard few door dings. Mirrors and front bumper were repainted and look much better.

black99

I guess my main point was that for 15k I'd rather have one with 60k miles than 100k miles.. Talking the car itself here, and might even chance 60k on original motor vs. 100k on car but with a newer motor. IMO even newer replaced motors can go as easy as ones with 60k. Just sort of that I'd be prouder of spending 15k on a car with 60k miles and original engine than a car with 100k on the chassis already.

Guess I kinda used the wrong terminology when I said "in a heartbeat" and I should've said simply "Before I spent 15k on a FD with 100k, see what kind of deals you can get for 15k". 100k is not a bad thing because the motor seems to be rebuilt however I feel it would be a much harder car to sell down the line as the mileage goes farther and farther over 100k if he decides to sell it as even though the motor is replaced, the car itself loses value..

Well to each his own and I wish the new buyer luck..

alberto_mg

I'd disagree here. Anyone who has owned their FD long enought knows all the stuff that needs fixing - motor, turbos, suspension, fuel system, cooling system, suspension etc. I would totally pass on a 60k mile car with the original motor. I saw a few cars with low mileage and they all has symptoms that the motor was on the way out.

You have to look for a car that was well maintained and whose overall physical condition is acceptable for the price given the amount of money you will have to throw at it to get it 90-100%.

Even if you buy one for $9k you will likely have to spend $5k fixing stuff and doing reliability mods.

That being said $15k for a stock car with only a rebuild to its name might be a little much. If it had mods/upgrades such as a radiator, intercooler, downpipe, power fc and the usual goodies then I'd say $15-16 is cool. oh and only if its a 5speed

'98 Type RS

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how about $5100? 33,500 miles. sorry, have to rub it in. http://www.goo-net.com/cgi-bin/searc...743014+13+goo+

JonesersRX7

You are in Japan... you don't count

Rx-7Addict

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Being a person who was in the market for an FD a month ago, I completely agree with you. An FD with 60k miles is much more desireable than an FD with 100k and a rebuild. I plan on keeping my car a long time, and low mileage is important to me

italian05d

why is low mileage so important to you if u already have the car? shouldnt you just enjoy the car and drive it as much as you possibly can? i feel that once you know that ur going to keep a car for a long time especially a 7 you should have fun, because your going to keep the miles off of it when it is in the shop.
just my .02

FormerPorscheGuy

Milage is not the main concern with this car, condition is everything. Has it been rebuilt and well maintained, or does it still need to be rebuilt? These are qustions that will deterine price.

Rx-7Addict

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Im saying low mileage was important when I was shopping for RX-7s

SlingShotRX7

Umm Not to get off topic,

I got a Brand new 93 R1 with 6miles. Back in 93
for 21K.. It was a Acid rain car with 10K off the MSRP.
Fair to say, I maybe got the best deals???

alberto_mg

Yes you did!

I was sitting on the dealer lot in 93 in the same situation and I'm still kicking myself for not buying it then!

scratchjunkie

low milage, high milage... it doesnt matter. your not buying this car as an investment. a rebuild runs $5k+ over here in cali and i would say $15k is a pretty good deal, since you wont have to be paranoid for the first 50k miles. if you go cheap and buy a fd for say like $10-$13k, i will bet you will be spending alot more down the road to fix all the little stuff that comes with the territory of a rotary within a year vs the first 50k miles you drive w/ the rebuilt motor. ive said it once and ill say it again, this forum has a lot of cheap bastards.