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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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How strong do you think these welds are?

After waiting for a while. I finally got my Aspec transmission brace. But I'm not to sure on the quality of the welds. FYI I also got badddrx7 transmission brace and its a work of art. See this thread.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 05:32 PM
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Some of those welds are not too bad, some are clearly not very good.

A couple of them have gaps at the edge of the bead.
The penetration is suspect in that case.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 05:35 PM
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those end welds are crap!! wow how much did you pay, man im gladd i got baddrx7 brace instead
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 05:40 PM
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I'm not an expert welder but I have done some welding to know they look quite a bit on the amateur side. I honestly wouldn't use them. Some parts of the beads look too thin, others look like there isn't enough penetration into the plates, and the small piece with two holes that is at an odd angle to the larger piece I think will fail somewhere along the line. It should be connected a lot better than that. I would get my money back and find someone that can make them as they should be.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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I did get a baddrx7 transmission brace and will be using it instead. I think Aspec did this on purpose because I was being an impatient customer.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=770217
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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The end where the plate seam doesn't come close to lining up is actually funny to me. Put it under any substantial twisting load and it will tear. The other end is good enough.

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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RotaryBuddha
I think Aspec did this on purpose because I was being an impatient customer.
I highly doubt that.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RotaryBuddha
I think Aspec did this on purpose because I was being an impatient customer.
Ive seen better work from Sean and personally have seen him weld. I am certain this wasnt on purpose. I dont know if he did this but the welds do look like crap. I once lost my helmet and had to mig weld a dump tube with my eyes shut in a time of need and they still looked better. I am sure Sean will refund you and this call all go to rest.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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All I can say is wow! I am a certified welder of some 15 years now with my own shop and I guarantee all of my work. The welds in those pics are from a MIG weld gone bad. I have all three of the major welding procedures ( TIG, MIG and AC/DC reverse stick ) and primarily use DC reverse stick. All of those braces I made for you were mostly butt or lap welds using a 6010 root pass at 90 amps and then covered with 7018, all DC reverese.

I am sure that the folks you bought that one from will make it good.

Again thanks to those who called upon me to help them.


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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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All I can say is wow! I am a certified welder of some 15 years now with my own shop and I guarantee all of my work. The welds in those pics are from a MIG weld gone bad. I have all three of the major welding procedures ( TIG, MIG and AC/DC reverse stick ) and primarily use DC reverse stick. All of those braces I made for you were mostly butt or lap welds using a 6010 root pass at 90 amps and then covered with 7018, all DC reverese.

I am sure that the folks you bought that one from will make it good.

Again thanks to those who called upon me to help them.


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I can't say enough good things about the quality of baddrx7's trans brace. It truly is a work of art compared to the one by Aspec. And the scary thing is the Aspec was 44 dollars more than baddrx7's.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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Wow, you weld your braces with a stick? Last time I used a 6010 and 7018 rod was 3 years ago when I had to get certified...I like to TIG everything I do.


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All I can say is wow! I am a certified welder of some 15 years now with my own shop and I guarantee all of my work. The welds in those pics are from a MIG weld gone bad. I have all three of the major welding procedures ( TIG, MIG and AC/DC reverse stick ) and primarily use DC reverse stick. All of those braces I made for you were mostly butt or lap welds using a 6010 root pass at 90 amps and then covered with 7018, all DC reverese.

I am sure that the folks you bought that one from will make it good.

Again thanks to those who called upon me to help them.


Later
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 10:29 PM
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That's an a-spec brace? Wow. Mine looks nothing like that? What the hell happened to that one?
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 11:03 PM
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Any company that would even ship that out is doing 1 of things:

TRYING to **** off a customer.

Or have no quality control.

There is spatter everywhere, nothing lines up properly, I don't see a single weld that I would consider satisfactory, or even good enough. looks terrible.

I'd tell them to shove that up their a** and to go get f***ed in the neck if they expect you to pay good money for that.

But I am only slightly picky.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 04:42 AM
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send it back, keep us updated on what they do.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by charlies7
Wow, you weld your braces with a stick? Last time I used a 6010 and 7018 rod was 3 years ago when I had to get certified...I like to TIG everything I do.


Argon, Argon/helium mix shield gases are sky high to refill. Only for aluminum. any thing else, good ole DC reverse does the job just fine.



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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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Wow I would send that thing back.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by A-Spec Tuning
Wow I would send that thing back.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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A spec has just blown my mind.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Spec Tuning
Wow I would send that thing back.

There you go! Problem solved
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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Wow I would send that thing back.
Ok that has to be the funniest thing to come out of this whole mess.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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Those are some terrible MIG welds. That's pure NOOB ****.

Even the Chinese guys that do eBay items weld better.

I wont put anything on my car unless it's TIG'ed
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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Well I asked Sean about this and he says it was just a terrible mistake. Given my past dealings with him I have no reason not to believe him.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RotaryBuddha
Ok that has to be the funniest thing to come out of this whole mess.
Hey, if we made a mistake or you are not happy with the product, it is our responsibility to make the situation right, to a certain extent of course.

A refund will be issued accordingly...sorry for the headache.
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