How much should I pay for a bone stock 93 montego blue FD with 25,000 miles
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hehehehe... id hope they're worth more than $1,600!!!!! yeah sorry i meant ~$17K haha! but seriously... it seems like the FD's value is really dropping like a rock! can anyone give me an estimate of what my car is worth now (i payed $17K... and i have put 10K miles on it in 2 years..... so how much would you pay for a 94 MB touring w/ 80K miles ????)
its just sad to see the prices drop because as we all know.... when prices drop, people that really arent ready to drive such a powerfull car will... basically this translates into more crashed, and or poorly maintained FD's! the only thing we haev left to look forward to are more parts cars i suppose !!! i wonder how many FD's are actually left in the US? im sure at least 1/3 of the cars have been crashed/totaled. anyone want to take a stab at how many FD's they think are left??
the one good side of having less FD's out there is supply/demand.... less FD's = more value for the ones that are left! maybe the future doesnt look so grim after all (just hang on to them while we go through a sort of FD recession)
its just sad to see the prices drop because as we all know.... when prices drop, people that really arent ready to drive such a powerfull car will... basically this translates into more crashed, and or poorly maintained FD's! the only thing we haev left to look forward to are more parts cars i suppose !!! i wonder how many FD's are actually left in the US? im sure at least 1/3 of the cars have been crashed/totaled. anyone want to take a stab at how many FD's they think are left??
the one good side of having less FD's out there is supply/demand.... less FD's = more value for the ones that are left! maybe the future doesnt look so grim after all (just hang on to them while we go through a sort of FD recession)
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and you know, with that mileage, you may STILL be able to find a warranty company still willing to cover it.
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During the time I was looking for a car I encountered a number of cars with low mileage, but alot of times they were 93's which I did not want or they were automatics. The problem with determining a fair price for these cars is that in everyone's eyes it is worth something different.
Remember this car is over ten years old now. Its going to get hard to find these cars with that low of mileage. If you really have your heart set on a FD with low mileage you might be willing to pay a premium for it when the guy next to you isnt. I certainly paid a premium for mine, but it is worth it in my mind since it was the 'exact' car I wanted.
In my mind I would be shooting for the $18K area...
Remember this car is over ten years old now. Its going to get hard to find these cars with that low of mileage. If you really have your heart set on a FD with low mileage you might be willing to pay a premium for it when the guy next to you isnt. I certainly paid a premium for mine, but it is worth it in my mind since it was the 'exact' car I wanted.
In my mind I would be shooting for the $18K area...
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and you know, with that mileage, you may STILL be able to find a warranty company still willing to cover it.
and you know, with that mileage, you may STILL be able to find a warranty company still willing to cover it.
Most warranty companies have two requirements: under 100K miles, and under 10 years... I know last year (2003) most companies would only insure up to 1995...and now it's 2004, so now it's gonna be even harder.
Add that to the fact that out of the handful of warranty companies that do cover cars made in 1994, there's prob only 2 or 3 that are willing to write policies for a twin turbo car. almost every warranty company says in BOLD somewhere "we do not warranty twin turbo vehicles" or simply list cars like the supra turbo, 300zx turbo, and rx7 as no-nos lol
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Originally posted by bricke
Your comparison isn't even similar. There's a big difference between buying one that LOW miles, bone stock versus high milage with an engine replaced. And I would guess from your price it wasn't in nearly as clean of condition as the one the originial poster is looking at.
Your comparison isn't even similar. There's a big difference between buying one that LOW miles, bone stock versus high milage with an engine replaced. And I would guess from your price it wasn't in nearly as clean of condition as the one the originial poster is looking at.
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The basic Theory "You get what you paid for" applies. I paid $16,500 for my 93 R1 with 26K miles. The car is immaculate. The smell of new car interior still there. Everything original with no missing parts. The spare has never been used along with the jack stand and tools. The suede seat has no sign of wear and firm cushion. Just like a new car except for the road chips on the front bumper and hood.
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aaaahhhhhhh im gonna scream..... why didnt i decide to buy my car after the fast and furious craze drove the prices up...... i payed that 2 years ago for a car w/ 70K!!!!!! and i recently bought an rx7 w/ an engine fire for $5K.... as i take it apart im realizing that i got SCREWED.... EVERYTHING is broken..... even the gastank has been patched! i wish i had waited longer on both purchases
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low mileage cars are great, i bought 1. the best part is the interor will be in much better condition. if you get lucky, the engine wont be in bad condition either.
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Originally posted by SNracing
low mileage cars are great, i bought 1. the best part is the interor will be in much better condition. if you get lucky, the engine wont be in bad condition either.
low mileage cars are great, i bought 1. the best part is the interor will be in much better condition. if you get lucky, the engine wont be in bad condition either.
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BC-FD3S, you got a deal on a Cali car. That alone gets a few K premium. I've seen ads from Ca residents trying to unload an out-of-state car because the conversion fee is so high.
Let's see... I got my Cali '95 R2 with 38k for $21K. All orginal, except the original owner had the seats redone in leather and put in GAB super-R's. Consistent service records, perfect boost and no rattles ! I'm serious! It just needs a brake job, but that's mantenance. I knew I was paying a little high, but I've seen other lo-mi cars with questionable engine bays and "new" parts.
Let's see... I got my Cali '95 R2 with 38k for $21K. All orginal, except the original owner had the seats redone in leather and put in GAB super-R's. Consistent service records, perfect boost and no rattles ! I'm serious! It just needs a brake job, but that's mantenance. I knew I was paying a little high, but I've seen other lo-mi cars with questionable engine bays and "new" parts.
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Originally posted by InsaneGideon
BC-FD3S, you got a deal on a Cali car. That alone gets a few K premium. I've seen ads from Ca residents trying to unload an out-of-state car because the conversion fee is so high.
Let's see... I got my Cali '95 R2 with 38k for $21K. All orginal, except the original owner had the seats redone in leather and put in GAB super-R's. Consistent service records, perfect boost and no rattles ! I'm serious! It just needs a brake job, but that's mantenance. I knew I was paying a little high, but I've seen other lo-mi cars with questionable engine bays and "new" parts.
BC-FD3S, you got a deal on a Cali car. That alone gets a few K premium. I've seen ads from Ca residents trying to unload an out-of-state car because the conversion fee is so high.
Let's see... I got my Cali '95 R2 with 38k for $21K. All orginal, except the original owner had the seats redone in leather and put in GAB super-R's. Consistent service records, perfect boost and no rattles ! I'm serious! It just needs a brake job, but that's mantenance. I knew I was paying a little high, but I've seen other lo-mi cars with questionable engine bays and "new" parts.
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I just got mine last weekend - almost perfect - from a retired couple. 93 basic in black with leather interior, only 3 dings. 19,000 original miles - still smells new. Carfax confirmed everything about the car. New tires, new battery, brake rotors and pads still in boxes for when it needs a brake job. Recent tune up all receipts for services since it was new. Drove it home from Reno to Seattle - fun. Would you believe $15,600.
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Originally posted by InsaneGideon
Let's see... I got my Cali '95 R2 with 38k for $21K. All orginal, except the original owner had the seats redone in leather and put in GAB super-R's. Consistent service records, perfect boost and no rattles ! I'm serious! It just needs a brake job, but that's mantenance. I knew I was paying a little high, but I've seen other lo-mi cars with questionable engine bays and "new" parts.
Let's see... I got my Cali '95 R2 with 38k for $21K. All orginal, except the original owner had the seats redone in leather and put in GAB super-R's. Consistent service records, perfect boost and no rattles ! I'm serious! It just needs a brake job, but that's mantenance. I knew I was paying a little high, but I've seen other lo-mi cars with questionable engine bays and "new" parts.
Originally posted by a3dcadman
I just got mine last weekend - almost perfect - from a retired couple. 93 basic in black with leather interior, only 3 dings. 19,000 original miles - still smells new. Carfax confirmed everything about the car. New tires, new battery, brake rotors and pads still in boxes for when it needs a brake job. Recent tune up all receipts for services since it was new. Drove it home from Reno to Seattle - fun. Would you believe $15,600.
I just got mine last weekend - almost perfect - from a retired couple. 93 basic in black with leather interior, only 3 dings. 19,000 original miles - still smells new. Carfax confirmed everything about the car. New tires, new battery, brake rotors and pads still in boxes for when it needs a brake job. Recent tune up all receipts for services since it was new. Drove it home from Reno to Seattle - fun. Would you believe $15,600.
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Originally posted by a3dcadman
I just got mine last weekend - almost perfect - from a retired couple. 93 basic in black with leather interior, only 3 dings. 19,000 original miles - still smells new. Carfax confirmed everything about the car. New tires, new battery, brake rotors and pads still in boxes for when it needs a brake job. Recent tune up all receipts for services since it was new. Drove it home from Reno to Seattle - fun. Would you believe $15,600.
I just got mine last weekend - almost perfect - from a retired couple. 93 basic in black with leather interior, only 3 dings. 19,000 original miles - still smells new. Carfax confirmed everything about the car. New tires, new battery, brake rotors and pads still in boxes for when it needs a brake job. Recent tune up all receipts for services since it was new. Drove it home from Reno to Seattle - fun. Would you believe $15,600.
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Originally posted by BC-FD3S
It is actually a Michigan Car. The previous owner didn't drive it that much and it was in storage most of the time since Michigan snow a lot. He relocated to Reno, NV and he decided to sell it. So I fly up to Reno and drove all the way back to Los Angeles. I only pay for the tax and license with a visual inspection at local DMV to get it registered in CA. No Conversion Fee at all.
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It is actually a Michigan Car. The previous owner didn't drive it that much and it was in storage most of the time since Michigan snow a lot. He relocated to Reno, NV and he decided to sell it. So I fly up to Reno and drove all the way back to Los Angeles. I only pay for the tax and license with a visual inspection at local DMV to get it registered in CA. No Conversion Fee at all.
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Maybe these guys with the ads were trying to register modified cars. A couple of cat's to pass visual could cost quite a bit.
Regardless, there IS a Ca.-specific ECU...
I wasn't aware a non-Ca. car would easily pass the emissions test... so more power to ya! Literallly!
Just don't let your RX get labeled as a "gross polluter"
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I believe I said almost perfect. I have never owned an automatic in my life, so it was the one factor that weighed against the car. But with more research and insight, the benefits far outweighed the only negative aspect of this vehicle. Hard to believe but they had never driven it in the rain or snow in 10 years, I essentially got a brand new car. One point I would like to make though. I was surprised at how well the auto did work, just a tad slow off the line but with a very quick recovery. Quick and definitive shifts with virtually no "mush". Kind of reminded me of the feel of the old V8s with big strong automatics and racing shift kits. Less torque of course.
Regardless, these cars are exquisitely beautiful, fun to drive, and extremely exhilarating.
Regardless, these cars are exquisitely beautiful, fun to drive, and extremely exhilarating.
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Originally posted by InsaneGideon
The conversion fee is acutally a mechanic's "fee" to make the car smog legal. You have to pass smog to register in Ca. (you're probably aware of that )
Maybe these guys with the ads were trying to register modified cars. A couple of cat's to pass visual could cost quite a bit.
Regardless, there IS a Ca.-specific ECU...
I wasn't aware a non-Ca. car would easily pass the emissions test... so more power to ya! Literallly!
Just don't let your RX get labeled as a "gross polluter"
The conversion fee is acutally a mechanic's "fee" to make the car smog legal. You have to pass smog to register in Ca. (you're probably aware of that )
Maybe these guys with the ads were trying to register modified cars. A couple of cat's to pass visual could cost quite a bit.
Regardless, there IS a Ca.-specific ECU...
I wasn't aware a non-Ca. car would easily pass the emissions test... so more power to ya! Literallly!
Just don't let your RX get labeled as a "gross polluter"
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Re: Re: How much should I pay for a bone stock 93 montego blue FD with 25,000 miles
Originally posted by FDNewbie
20 bucks says that's a lie lol. Sounds like the typical add for an FD:
xxxx miles, 80% highway miles. owned by wealthy elderly woman. only taken out on sundays. always garaged. never seen rain or snow. 0-60 in xxx seconds, turbos pull very hard, accelerates very well, but never raced.
LOL...yea. sure.
20 bucks says that's a lie lol. Sounds like the typical add for an FD:
xxxx miles, 80% highway miles. owned by wealthy elderly woman. only taken out on sundays. always garaged. never seen rain or snow. 0-60 in xxx seconds, turbos pull very hard, accelerates very well, but never raced.
LOL...yea. sure.
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No it's not Turbo'd
A car with 12 k can have serious compression issues, even if grandma never heard the buzzer, since 1 you don't know how well the engine was assembeled, since they're all hand assembeled in hiroshima, and 2 if one of the men that test drove it 20 Min, before grandma bought it stepped on it hard with less than 1K mi, you might have some really shitty compression !? Grandma will swear on her bible that she never opened it up !
You just never know, the only way to make sure is to take it to a shop you trust and pay $200 to do a complete bumper to bumper, inspection, and add that to the price to pay for a good rx-7.... even better when you're done take it to a body shop to have the frame checked as well...
-DC
You just never know, the only way to make sure is to take it to a shop you trust and pay $200 to do a complete bumper to bumper, inspection, and add that to the price to pay for a good rx-7.... even better when you're done take it to a body shop to have the frame checked as well...
-DC
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Re: Re: Re: How much should I pay for a bone stock 93 montego blue FD with 25,000 mil
Originally posted by dr0x
Yeah. I love it when they have 8000$ in performance parts, state the 1/4 mile time and say it has never seen a track either
Yeah. I love it when they have 8000$ in performance parts, state the 1/4 mile time and say it has never seen a track either
On that note tho, i do have a question...
a lot of those ads say somethin like "dynoed 420HP @ 12 psi...should make well over 500HP @ 15 psi)
dont pay too much attention to the actual numbers I used...but my point is... is there a reason ppl would dyno their car at below it's peak performance (lesser boost) or is that just them BSing?