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Old 01-17-09, 05:15 PM
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FL How much HP on Non-Seq Twins @16lbs?

Just a quick question to everyone. How much HP would a Non Sequential setup @ 16-18 lbs produce? Don't have access to a dyno as yet so just wanna get a general idea.

Oh and another question, I turned the car on today and its making a hideous high pitched brap sound when I step on the throttle? The car cut off the other day when I was at cvs and then it didnt want to start at all. So I un-flooded the car today and put all the plugs in. It started but it idled like crap and when I hit the throttle it just gave me excessive smoke out the rear and just brap after brap after brap... I'm imagining the car just needs new sparkies. Anyone wanna chime in?
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i am making 372 @ the wheels 16psi
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16-18 PSI, your turbos will be slowly dying. That sound could well be your turbos biting the dust.

About 14 psi is the max the stock twins can do for long-term use. More than that, and you'll be killing them off quickly.

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Say whaaaaaat? what kind of bolt on's and fuel management are you runnin???
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Originally Posted by Dream Theater
Say whaaaaaat? what kind of bolt on's and fuel management are you runnin???
It has nothing to do with it. The physical dimensions of the stock twins dictate that anything over about 14psi creates excessive heat and wear.
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Originally Posted by Dream Theater
Just a quick question to everyone. How much HP would a Non Sequential setup @ 16-18 lbs produce? Don't have access to a dyno as yet so just wanna get a general idea.

Oh and another question, I turned the car on today and its making a hideous high pitched brap sound when I step on the throttle? The car cut off the other day when I was at cvs and then it didnt want to start at all. So I un-flooded the car today and put all the plugs in. It started but it idled like crap and when I hit the throttle it just gave me excessive smoke out the rear and just brap after brap after brap... I'm imagining the car just needs new sparkies. Anyone wanna chime in?
What is your vacuum at idle?
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Originally Posted by DaleClark
16-18 PSI, your turbos will be slowly dying. That sound could well be your turbos biting the dust.

About 14 psi is the max the stock twins can do for long-term use. More than that, and you'll be killing them off quickly.

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This is true, i was running 1bar boost on my 99 spec turbo's, had dyno'd 303hp at the wheels, one day racing at the track and I had blown them. They had only done 30,000kms too oh well single turbo going in next week YEE HAAA!!
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we just made this the other day on my stock non-seq twins



full info here: https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/first-dyno-fresh-rebuild-non-seq-untuned-757144/page2/
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Originally Posted by theorie
we just made this the other day on my stock non-seq twins



full info here: https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=757144&page=2

Wow that's awesome, im hoping to go 14 PSi on my non seq here in April when Kan comes to tune. Dont think ill get 380 but a solid 350 would be awesome.
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Nice dyno pic, but man....NO torque.

At 326hp, I make 287tq....you make ~50hp more than me, but only 20tq more?

You should look into that, me thinks.
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OK...Let's get back to the start... My car has ran rich and still runs rich on the setup I have. I need to get a PFC or something... So I know im not running lean(thank god). But my thing is just the really rough idle after start. I doubt its the turbo's do to these symptoms. I got in the car and started it and it was idling...friend jumped in to back the car up and he stalled out. Then tried to crank it and ended up flooding it... An hour later after having a dead battery and trying to jump the car/unflood it and start it, I just had the car towed back to my place. Removed the plugs and they had fuel all over them. Cleaned them up but the tips of the plugs were black. That was clue numero uno to fouled plugs. Anyway I put them in and the car hickup'd then started but the idle felt like 200-300 then the car died. Ergo why I said its probably the sparkies.

OK so about these 350+ HP numbers... What are using to manage your fuel delivery? I am asking because right now I'm running on the stock ECU ( DANGER WILL ROBINSON!!! ) and though I'm running rich I don't wanna pop the motor obviously. (Boost controller coming soon)
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Check ur map sensor (aka boost sensor behind the intake manifold) that's probably why your running rich and like crap. also make sure not to boost when you get it running if your pushing 16psi with the stock ecu. Get a pfc and tune it asap.
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