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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 11:22 AM
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Cool how to make your own tranny and diff brace??

Ive been searching for the better part of the morning, does anyone have instructions or just pics on different ideas.....im not gonna spend 300 bucks on 27 dollars worth steel and like 8 welds...
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 11:50 AM
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A $2 search turned up the following...















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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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well yeah i saw those..Im looking for different ideas and information

mainly what degree is that bend on the diff brace.......
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 12:31 PM
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well yeah i saw those..Im looking for different ideas and information

mainly what degree is that bend on the diff brace.......
I thought it was just a couple pieces of steel and a few welds. Am I missing something here?

Why does it seem that everyone who doesn't want to pay the "high price" for an item wants detailed blueprints so they can "do it for themselves"? Part of the cost of that item was someone getting under the car and taking measurements, coming up with the idea, and then executing on it. How many pieces of steel and how many welds it took is irrelevant.

I just had someone tell me the other day that my bushings were simple to make and the high price wasn't justified. They said they'd made bushings on the lathe in school and that it wasn't that difficult. The next day that person asked me to sell him blueprints for my bushings to "make his own"... and try to undercut me on price, he said in the same breath. Now he's looking to buy a pair of my differential bushings because that's all he really wanted in the first place, and as easy as it looked, it's still a lot of work to make your own from scratch.

Sure, you can make a set of bushings for yourself. After all, it is "just" Nylon rod turned to size, and a few center pins. But after you have the band saw, lathe, drill press, and materials required to make the parts, you'll need some dimensions. That means pulling apart at least half of your suspension, measuring the stock bushings, removing the stock bushings, measuring the sockets, and then coming up with a design, and then installing and testing the design. It's amazing how many people just opt to buy a set from someone who has already done all the R&D.

Getting back to your request for the angle... I seriously doubt that you're going to get anyone to cough that up for free. And no offense, but if you're capable of making one for yourself, a picture should be all you need.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jimlab
I thought it was just a couple pieces of steel and a few welds. Am I missing something here?

Why does it seem that everyone who doesn't want to pay the "high price" for an item wants detailed blueprints so they can "do it for themselves"? Part of the cost of that item was someone getting under the car and taking measurements, coming up with the idea, and then executing on it. How many pieces of steel and how many welds it took is irrelevant.
I just dont like paying high price for something when I feel its overpriced. Thats all.....I have no problem paying for someones well thought out plan and labor......but who actually *designed and test fitted it*..

If I was to buy the KG Parts brace for $174 and make my own and sell it for the same...do your morals apply to me...do they even apply to KG Parts who could have just copied it from say Gotham Racing or Rx7store??

This isnt the invention of the century, if it was someone would have gotten a patent for it, instead of first posting pics on rx7club.com..

Originally Posted by jimlab
I just had someone tell me the other day that my bushings were simple to make and the high price wasn't justified. They said they'd made bushings on the lathe in school and that it wasn't that difficult. The next day that person asked me to sell him blueprints for my bushings to "make his own"... and try to undercut me on price, he said in the same breath. Now he's looking to buy a pair of my differential bushings because that's all he really wanted in the first place, and as easy as it looked, it's still a lot of work to make your own from scratch.
Agreed

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Sure, you can make a set of bushings for yourself. After all, it is "just" Nylon rod turned to size, and a few center pins. But after you have the band saw, lathe, drill press, and materials required to make the parts, you'll need some dimensions. That means pulling apart at least half of your suspension, measuring the stock bushings, removing the stock bushings, measuring the sockets, and then coming up with a design, and then installing and testing the design. It's amazing how many people just opt to buy a set from someone who has already done all the R&D.
Its becoming highly apparent that were comparing apples and oranges,

Bushings being something that required a nice chunk of time to design, test fit and design again.

Or a Diff Brace Reseller, who copied the design from one thing and decided to resell it as thier own..

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Getting back to your request for the angle... I seriously doubt that you're going to get anyone to cough that up for free. And no offense, but if you're capable of making one for yourself, a picture should be all you need.
I just dont have an acetelyne torch and I dont have a local friend with one....which is actually fine cause I could do a mockup fit with 2 dollar alum from home depot and just have a friend bend the steel to that exact degree........


ok now im just bitching, ill stop whining and make my own this weekend
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 05:17 PM
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btw, the braces that rx7store and gotham sell ARE keith's. they purchase them from him and resale so he more or less makes more money. and i agree very much with jim, you're not going to get anyone to give you dimensions. i just sold one of keith's braces for like $60 on ebay. might look into used parts if you're too cheap to buy a quality item. just because it doesn't look very involved, doesn't mean it's not worth the money. to me, a rotary engine doesn't seem very complex, but they sure as hell cost a lot of money.

basically, deal with the high prices or find something cheaper to modify
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 05:51 PM
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Good luck with the build.

I like Dragons design for a diff brace, but attaching **** to your floor pan seems a little sketchy to me.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 06:21 PM
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well i just bought the parts for the tranny and diff brace...
$27.85
you can take off $3.85 for a piece of alum i bought to get test fits before bending the steel.

ill post in a week how I did it (going to do it)
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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i should get one of those i just replace my brace....snapped it last week.
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Old Aug 26, 2004 | 01:01 AM
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well put.


Originally Posted by spoolin93r1
btw, the braces that rx7store and gotham sell ARE keith's. they purchase them from him and resale so he more or less makes more money. and i agree very much with jim, you're not going to get anyone to give you dimensions. i just sold one of keith's braces for like $60 on ebay. might look into used parts if you're too cheap to buy a quality item. just because it doesn't look very involved, doesn't mean it's not worth the money. to me, a rotary engine doesn't seem very complex, but they sure as hell cost a lot of money.

basically, deal with the high prices or find something cheaper to modify
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