sicminded

i'm wanting to buy some clamps too but dont know which size and how many? gonna check out the home depot tho

High Temp Silicone

The "oil sweat" you found is the permeation of the oil through the wall of the silicone hose. This is typical of a silicone failure.

I was asked about the clamps already. What I will do is call my clamp supplier tomorrow and find out what the smallest they can supply us with. Currently the smallest size is .437" which is still too big for the 3.5 and 4MM sizes.

dgeesaman

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This thread is probably going to develop into the 'shoulder to cry on' as 10 people simultaneously attempt hose jobs

dgeesaman

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Did some disassembling last night. This is what awaits me first thing Sat. morning...

High Temp Silicone

Ok guys here is the deal with the clamps. The quickest I can get the miniature clamps is Tuesday. I have several sizes available but I think we will only need 1 size. Here are the ranges:

Hose
3.5MM .348" OD
4.0MM .367" OD
6.0MM .446" OD
8.0MM .545" OD

Clamp
MSC3604 Range .219" to .625"

100% stainless band/hardware = $.45/ea
Stainless Band/ plated hardware = $.41/ea

I cannot mix and match the clamps between the plated and 100% stainless, so if this goes through we would have to decide on one or the other. I need to know how many clamps are needed for the kit. I think future kits sold may include the clamps. It just doesnt seem right to use a nylon 6/6 zip tie on Viton hose.

Jim

DaveW

These, I assume, are screw clamps. Wouldn't spring clamps be better? Or do we really need clamps at all?

miatrx

I lost count of hose sections in the mid 50s, so i think 130 clamps would work for me. I would rather have a few extra than not enough. I vote for stainless. Would they come to you on tuesday? When could you get them to us? (My rats nest etc are removed at this point...)

Thanks for the info.
Tom

dgeesaman

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Eeee, it looks pretty tight in there to fit screw clamps in some places. It would certainly make it more tedious. Anyone installed screw clamps all around that can comment?

I'll see how things go first - I'm thinking I'll clean all nipples and apply that 3M weatherstrip adhesive for a little extra security.

miatrx

Oops. After dave's post popped up I realized that these MUST be screw clamps. I really want to find spring clamps.

Tom

dgeesaman

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Question:

I have printed and labeled the hose diagram. Is this diagram the complete list of hoses to replace?

High Temp Silicone

Yes the clamps quoted have screw/hex hardware. You guys would know better than I if you have room to secure them.

Just know they are available.

Jim

rockshox

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get the heat stabilized nylon zip ties and you will have a lot fewer problems with them. you can also get the ratcheting style clamps which are reusable (you just push them sideways to release the teeth)

sicminded

please share with us the outcome and if there is any trouble getting these on. unlike you i'll be brining my car to the shop to have it done during my rebuild. i want to make sure everything goes smoothly.

good luck!

thanks,
chris

johnchabin

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I used the spring clamps with silicone. It tended to tear/split the silicone.

This may not be an issue with Viton.

dgeesaman

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I think the viton would handle spring clamps with no problem. However, it's also grippy and sturdy enough I may skip it altogether.

High Temp Silicone

Hows the installation going fellas? Did everybody get their kit? I ended up with 5 extra Viton kits. So they are here if anybody wants one.

Jim

LAracer

I got my kit. The stuff looks good, and like hightemp said, it's heavy. I'll be looking out for a good source for spring-clamps, but I've got time since the hose job will be a winter project for next year (I'd rather spend my free time driving while the weather's good).

WNEC98

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I haven't gotten the hoses yet

dgeesaman

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My install is going fine. I've decided I will only clamp/wrap hoses that are pressurized, the hoses fit so well I think vacuum is going to be fine. I am taking care of a big laundry list of other things and waiting for some parts so I won't be done till next week.

sicminded

i got 3-4 days after payment, have you been in contact with them?

WNEC98

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No I haven't contacted anyone yet. About to...

High Temp Silicone

I PM'd you eariler today as soon as you posted. I will try again.

Jim

WNEC98

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I looked all around and could find no evidence that I actually paid you. I think maybe I dreamt the whole thing I'll take another look and let you know...

miatrx

I completed the hose job today. I decided to go with ties in most places.The old silicone hose was not in good condition so I am happy to get in the viton. I was pleased with this viton, expecially in kink resistance and grip. Obviously this job is a PITA, but considering that I have had an FD for only six weeks it went pretty smoothly. Now on to other issues with my boost. Good luck guys.

sicminded

just got off the phone with rick from ricks's rotary @ pleasanton, who will be doing the viton hose job for me, he told me he installed a viton hose kit on his car ~10 years ago without any clamps or tie-wraps and they are still good. he says that they will grip enough alone.

good to hear that an install went good. tie-wraps or nething else for extra security is not a bad idea.

chris