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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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Hood Struts for CF hoods?

OK everyone, I've "searched" and read nearly every Gen 3 thread on this topic. I know that Chuck at Rotary Extreme (RE) offered probably the best solution at one time, but my question is this:

"Is anyone aware of a current solution on the market that works without valving so stiff that it bows CF hoods when closing?"

I've personally witnessed how stiff the NRGs are, and the Teins are not much better. Are there any "Ebay" solutions that have softer valving, but still do a good job of holding up the hood? What has your experience been? Is anyone aware of a "stock OEM" strut, such as a short one from Honda that might work? Have you found a strut at Checker or Autozone that might work?

Please share your experience!

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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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This is Relative to my concerns as we'll as i'm about to pick up an AD9 carbon hood, and i have the NRG struts on the car currently.
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 02:41 PM
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NRG makes struts for CF\FG hoods and sets for OEM hoods. I have a set but haven't got around to installing it and won't for a while. I got mine through FDNewbie Imports.
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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Thanks for the responses guys. I just Googled "NRG Struts Carbon Fiber Hoods" and found a link to a Scion website that claims you can special order them from NRG at half-pressure specifically for carbon fiber hoods. I've got a dealer checking into this and will get back to everyone with an answer tomorrow.
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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That would def be cool... I *should* be having a CF hood shipped out my way soon... would be cool to have struts for it, instead of using the stock brace in a make-shift manner..
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RCCAZ 1
OK everyone, I've "searched" and read nearly every Gen 3 thread on this topic. I know that Chuck at Rotary Extreme (RE) offered probably the best solution at one time, but my question is this:

"Is anyone aware of a current solution on the market that works without valving so stiff that it bows CF hoods when closing?"

I've personally witnessed how stiff the NRGs are, and the Teins are not much better. Are there any "Ebay" solutions that have softer valving, but still do a good job of holding up the hood? What has your experience been? Is anyone aware of a "stock OEM" strut, such as a short one from Honda that might work? Have you found a strut at Checker or Autozone that might work?

Please share your experience!

Thx!
Rotary Extreme is back in business.
RE Hood Dampers

I have the dampers I purchased from them a couple years ago, and no bowing visible on my VIS CF hood.
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 01:31 AM
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RE hood damper are to expensive the NRG ones are the best bang for the buck and they come in silver or black i believe there only 100 bucks. you can find them on E-bay for like 90.00 shipped or something like that.
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 02:39 AM
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I have the Rotary Extreme one's w/ CF hood and no problems here
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 11:44 AM
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+1, I have the RE one's and I've used them on multiple CF hoods without any issues.
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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Kai and Riz..... agreed and thanks for the replies. However, they are no longer for sale. If I can't get half-strength NRGs, I may just go to Checker and find some of similar length and make my own kit. We'll see.

Riz... did you get my PM asking if your extra set of REs was still for sale? I never got a reply, so I assume that you've sold them??
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 04:31 PM
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RE hood damper are too expensive
Maybe you should sell the FD and get a Civic.
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 12:59 AM
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^ maybe you should shut the **** up or post something productive? He happens to be right. They are pricey.
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jkstill
Maybe you should sell the FD and get a Civic.


Pretty stupid comment considering the person you're addressing that to has spent a substantial amount on his FD. Probably moreso than yourself...just an FYI.
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Originally Posted by RCCAZ 1
Kai and Riz..... agreed and thanks for the replies. However, they are no longer for sale. If I can't get half-strength NRGs, I may just go to Checker and find some of similar length and make my own kit. We'll see.

Riz... did you get my PM asking if your extra set of REs was still for sale? I never got a reply, so I assume that you've sold them??

PM'd you back! Sorry for the late reply. Yes, unfortunately I sold them awhile back. You should try the F/S section. You might just get lucky...
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 10:24 AM
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OP,

Rotary Extreme is back in business (different owner but same products) and you can get the dampers...

http://www.rotaryextreme.com/fdindex.html

I have talked to the owner about these and he stated that he places orders once he receives an order and it takes about three weeks for the product to get to you.

Charlie
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by str8ryd
Pretty stupid comment
You're right, I apologize for that comment.

Last edited by jkstill; Dec 6, 2008 at 10:33 AM.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 03:03 AM
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Hey guys, Yes I still sell everything that Chuck made. Sorry I am on a made per oder set-up, but that's the only way to bring the business back at this time.

When payment is made for anything, I have to get the cnc guy to make the custom pieces and order any other parts. That takes time to get the kits together. Then there is shipping.

I don't carry any stock. Economy does not support me to also.

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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 02:24 PM
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rotary extreme hood damper is for a regular load, stock hood. Do they have for CF hoods, i didnt see on the website so i though id ask.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jknapik
rotary extreme hood damper is for a regular load, stock hood. Do they have for CF hoods, i didnt see on the website so i though id ask.
I have the RE hood dampers on a VIS CF hood - no problems.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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IIRC, back then Chuck specified two different hood shocks. A higher compression rated shock for the heavier stock hood and a lower compression for the fiberglass or carbon hoods. The mounting hardware was the same. The shocks themselves are off the shelf parts from a manufacturer that makes those products.

Search for his original posts on the subject.
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silver carbon fiber, $90.00 ebay, fit great, work great


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sorry about that. let me resize

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oops. don't know why this is happening
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by caredden
OP,

Rotary Extreme is back in business (different owner but same products) and you can get the dampers...

http://www.rotaryextreme.com/fdindex.html

I have talked to the owner about these and he stated that he places orders once he receives an order and it takes about three weeks for the product to get to you.

Charlie
i have these w/ a VIS "knight sport style" hood

works great for me
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 09:06 AM
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i feel like the force in the dampers might be too strong, since the weight difference between a Cf hood and a Regular OEM hood differs, so the damping force should be different as well. I know the CNC brackets helps reduce that type of damage, but NRG makes specific half force dampers specially for aftermarket CF hoods, i know that Ramy had started a GB on that subject but hes dissapeared for god knows how long. So im contemplating on what to do...any other options?
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