Holy bad gas milage, Batman!
Holy bad gas milage, Batman!
I am getting about 8 mpg and it is driving me crazy. I know this is not normal and it has to stop. I just filled up last week, and after 66 miles, my tank is almost at half.
I am non-sequential, and have removed the airpump, along with the ACV and all that other stuff. My AFR's at idle and cruising are about 10:1, which is way too rich. Has anyone measured their AFR at idle and cruising with a wideband with the airpump and acv hooked up still. I suppose it should be arount 13:1 at idle and 15:1 while cruising.
My air intake thermosensor was dead, which makes the ECU thing the air is always the coldest, making it super rich, so I thought that was the problem. Well, I replaced it and the mileage didn't change at all.
I don't drive like a maniac and probably only boost only once when I drive the car somewhere. I am not sequential any more so I really have to get on the gas to produce any boost, which I barely ever do.
Mods in sig.
I am non-sequential, and have removed the airpump, along with the ACV and all that other stuff. My AFR's at idle and cruising are about 10:1, which is way too rich. Has anyone measured their AFR at idle and cruising with a wideband with the airpump and acv hooked up still. I suppose it should be arount 13:1 at idle and 15:1 while cruising.
My air intake thermosensor was dead, which makes the ECU thing the air is always the coldest, making it super rich, so I thought that was the problem. Well, I replaced it and the mileage didn't change at all.
I don't drive like a maniac and probably only boost only once when I drive the car somewhere. I am not sequential any more so I really have to get on the gas to produce any boost, which I barely ever do.
Mods in sig.
thats really bad. i filled up yesterday, full tank. I drove it for 170 miles and am a little over the middle mark and I boost A LOT. I'm surprised I get that much mpg driving so hard but I am all stock, not even a downpipe. clean your injectors and replace the o2 sensor, those made the biggest difference on my past rx7s
Last edited by ivc7; Nov 13, 2004 at 01:57 AM.
Originally Posted by ivc7
thats really bad. i filled up yesterday, full tank. I drove it for 170 miles and am a little over the middle mark and I boost A LOT. I'm surprised I get that much mpg driving so hard but I am all stock, not even a downpipe. clean your injectors and replace the o2 sensor, those made the biggest difference on my past rx7s
It's probably toast. on my fc it was original and i had over 100k on the car. i had it replaced by a mechanic for $15, took 10 minutes. after i replaced my o2 sensor and had my injectors cleaned i went from 10mpg to about 23 on the freeway. better to do it now than burn all that money literally from higher fuel costs. i really hated spending $35 on a tankfull and be on empty after only 200miles, gets very frustarting especially with the prices for gas here in cali.
I get about 15-16 mpg mixed driving.
I replace plugs, fuel filter, vacuum lines, had my injectors cleaned and balanced and added a crane ignition system. I noticed when I ran with the M3 ECU the mileage was much worse (richer fuel maps). I switched to stock to pass emmissions. I may just leave it in.
I replace plugs, fuel filter, vacuum lines, had my injectors cleaned and balanced and added a crane ignition system. I noticed when I ran with the M3 ECU the mileage was much worse (richer fuel maps). I switched to stock to pass emmissions. I may just leave it in.
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Pettit DP does NOT need to be pulled to remove O2 sensor. Jack the car up, and crawl underneath. PLENTY of room to get at it with a big 'ol wrench.
Don't forget the anti-sieze on the threads only, getting it back out after 30K miles with no anit-sieze sucks!
Don't forget the anti-sieze on the threads only, getting it back out after 30K miles with no anit-sieze sucks!
Originally Posted by spurvo
Pettit DP does NOT need to be pulled to remove O2 sensor. Jack the car up, and crawl underneath. PLENTY of room to get at it with a big 'ol wrench.
Don't forget the anti-sieze on the threads only, getting it back out after 30K miles with no anit-sieze sucks!
Don't forget the anti-sieze on the threads only, getting it back out after 30K miles with no anit-sieze sucks!
Anyways, I changed the sensor, still bad milage, but I think it may have gotton a little better. I changed it this morning and drove for 64 miles today, all city or freeway in the traffic, and the 64 miles took about a quarter tank, I guess that's much better than before. (i'm assuming the fuel gauge is linear, is it?)
And on the fuel filter, I know this sounds way stupid, but I couldn't find it, haha. I know it's by the rear differential but I looked and couldn't find it. Is it like behind the differential, because that's such a stupid place to put it when there is plenty of room behind or in front of it.
I just got 22.4 mpg on my last tank. I had to commute with my FD for a week since my daily driver is down. It's about 70% highway and about 30% stop-n-go traffic. A cleaned up fuel system and an a/f gauge do wonders for mpg.
I blow the carbon out at least once a day.
Sonny
I blow the carbon out at least once a day.Sonny
Originally Posted by littlemilla3
Mods in sig.
I got a friend with almost the same mods as you. He got a used HKS twin power and you dont even see any black smoke when hes on the road. His AFR at idle is around high 11's. So maybe its time for an ignition upgrade.Jeremy
Originally Posted by jeremyb
You have a M2 ecu meaning its a non-tunable re-flashed ECU. You run rich on purpose from the design of the re-flash due to safety purposes. IF you notice some black smoke on the road... go on a dyno and see how black you can get the shop before they turn your car off.
I got a friend with almost the same mods as you. He got a used HKS twin power and you dont even see any black smoke when hes on the road. His AFR at idle is around high 11's. So maybe its time for an ignition upgrade.
Jeremy
I got a friend with almost the same mods as you. He got a used HKS twin power and you dont even see any black smoke when hes on the road. His AFR at idle is around high 11's. So maybe its time for an ignition upgrade.Jeremy
My plan is to get all four injectors cleaned and balanced at RC-Engineering, because I am planning to do the fuel recall kit and FPD already.
Originally Posted by littlemilla3
Yeah, rich under boost; it doesn't change the idle and cruising fuel values, if I recall correctly.
My plan is to get all four injectors cleaned and balanced at RC-Engineering, because I am planning to do the fuel recall kit and FPD already.
My plan is to get all four injectors cleaned and balanced at RC-Engineering, because I am planning to do the fuel recall kit and FPD already.
Jeremy
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