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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 07:56 AM
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HKS Twin Power

Can anyone tell me what difference in HKS Rotory Twin Power VS. HKS twin power? I think it's only harness, right?

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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 08:02 AM
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i cant believe what the charge for these things. My buddy has an 03 cobra and spends hardily anythign to mod it. pisses me off. any ways....just bhuy the one that rx7 store has for sale.
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 09:36 AM
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I'm not sure exactly why.. but there is a difference between regular twin power and for rotary twin power.
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 10:09 AM
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Id like to know the difference to... Advantages Vs Disadvantages
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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Heres whats the hks website says about the twin power ROTARY system....

The Twin Power ignition amplifier incorporates both the CDI and transistor method ignition to provide optimum spark duration and maximum voltage output, resulting in crisper throttle response and a smoother engine powerband. The CDI method, capacity discharge ignition, provides maximum voltage by transferring all stored energy in the capacitor to the ignition coil so that the ignition current can buildup quickly, thus making the Twin Power very effective in the higher revs where a normal spark would tend to diminish. This strong rapid spark prevents the high rpm ignition miss that reduces peak power. The transistorized method generates high voltage by using transistors to cut off current to the coil, thus allowing for a long energy discharge. This longer spark duration allows the Twin Power to improve lower RPM throttle response and torque. The combination of the CDI and the transistor method incorporates two distinct systems into one high performance unit, hence the designation of Twin Power. The Twin Power produces a spark output that is typically 1.5-2.5 stronger than of the stock ignition system and consumes about 35% less power input than other ignition amplifiers. Each compact and attractive Twin power unit is constructed of durable anodized aluminum and sealed to prevent corrosion from moisture. General wiring harnesses are included in each unit to aid in installation and mounting. Vehicle Specific wiring harnesses are also available for certain models to further aid in installations that require intricate integration.(CARB E.O. # D-186-22)

Dimensions: All Twin Power Units, except for DLI II, are 91mm (L) x 80mm (W) x 34.5mm (H) and weighs Approximately 430g (~15.2oz)



$600!!
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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rx7store.net = 519 bucks

Cheapest i have found. and i have heard nothing but good things about it.
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 11:43 AM
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It sure does work.. I've let others try out my twin power and everyone noticed a difference.. also all who tried it ended up buying one..
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 11:45 AM
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It sure does work.. I've let others try out my twin power and everyone noticed a difference.. also all who tried it ended up buying one..
really!
What kind fo setups are we talking about here? singles or twins as well?
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 11:49 AM
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HKS twin power rotary 510 with harness at rxecret7.com
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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I will beat any price you can find on the twin power.

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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
really!
What kind fo setups are we talking about here? singles or twins as well?
One guy is using it on his 62-1 single and I'm running stock twins.
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 01:40 PM
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The big thing with the twin power is you plug it in, no wire splicing, and it amplifies both trailing and leading spark. And, it's also VERY well made and reliable - many people have had trouble with other ignition amps.

If you were to go with, say, an MSD 6A, you'd need 3 of them to do what the Twin Power does. Not to mention the twin power is like 1/4 of the size of one MSD box.

You get what you pay for, really.

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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 01:45 PM
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I think the twin power is one of the best single small mods you can do to the fd. After installing it, the car feels like it just had new plugs, wires, & good gas put in ( SoCal 91 octane is pretty bad).

I have a friend who I finally convinced to install his twin power on his blown fd, and afterwards he said it 'almost' feels like the car isn't blown (wishful thinking). The breakup on his car happens at a much higher rpm, and the car starts much easier now.....

Luckily, we both got ours back when they were ~$300 - 320 used, about a yr ago.
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 01:59 PM
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Me too.. I got mine from Jesse Lau back when for 350 shipped..
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 02:29 PM
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Best $500 I have spent in a long time.

I had break up at my upper boost settings. This cleared all of that up without me pulling fuel out. Still rich as hell at 10.8-1 @ 14psi and above. Although that was when the motor was running. I blew it a week ago.

Heard bad things about the AEM unit, search, many posts explaining this.

Easy as hell to install. Everyone should have one.
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dcfc3s
The big thing with the twin power is you plug it in, no wire splicing, and it amplifies both trailing and leading spark. And, it's also VERY well made and reliable - many people have had trouble with other ignition amps.

If you were to go with, say, an MSD 6A, you'd need 3 of them to do what the Twin Power does. Not to mention the twin power is like 1/4 of the size of one MSD box.

You get what you pay for, really.

Dale
That sums it up nicely. Thanks Dale! I immediately noticed an improvement in my car when I ditched a Crane for the Twin Power. They dyno reflected a slight improvement as well! I remember when the AEM ignitions came out, everyone touted them as the second coming. They said it was cheaper, more powerful, blah, blah. That's until they found out they were getting stranded on the side of the road and 90% of them were defective.
There are a ton of good ignition amps out there, pick what suits your budget and needs, but I'm very happy that I invested in the Twin Power.

That doesn't mean I don't think it's not vastly overpriced.
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 02:52 PM
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yea I too will vouch for the HKS TP. I'm running the M2 ECU which is mapped pretty rich. During dyno, my car filled the garage with smoke! I would also notice the smoke in the rear view mirror when I run WOT. With the HKS TP it has pretty much eliminated the black smoke when running WOT. The dyno sheet showed that I was misfiring big time up top, and I suspect that the HKS TP has solved this judging by the lack of black exhaust- not to mention free up some HP in the process.
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 02:06 PM
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It seems like everyone that has the HKS twin power thinks it works good and likes it. I have seen indications that it wears out plugs very fast. Is that true? People that have them please respond.
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 06:46 PM
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Will i have to remap the ECU if i install one? (Or is it plug in and play?)

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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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plug and play..
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Old Oct 31, 2004 | 07:17 AM
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So, does it plug in between the ignition harness and the coils? If so, that seems like a simple install. Do you even have to remove the UIM?
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Old Oct 31, 2004 | 07:20 AM
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Twinpower is CAKE to install. Seriously about 2 minutes to do it all. The hardest part isn't the installation but the mounting of the unit in the engine bay.

I did find that the AEM had a much stronger spark than the Twinpower...but the twinpower didn't leave me stranded on the side of the road.

Still, AEM did send me a brand NEW unit. No problems thus far.
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Old Oct 31, 2004 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SkulkR1
It seems like everyone that has the HKS twin power thinks it works good and likes it. I have seen indications that it wears out plugs very fast. Is that true? People that have them please respond.
I never had that issue.. But of course I change my sparts every 3-5K.. Or every other oil change for those who change their oil every 3k miles.. I change my oil every 1k. Little excessive.. I know..
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Old Oct 31, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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sorry guys, but the HKS twin power doesn't live up to its billing on the dyno. i bought one about a year ago for my FD. after installing, i too thought it made a positive difference. the dyno (had Pettit dyno it for me), though, proved it actually lost 10 RWHP. i really was surprised. took it off and sold it!

if any of you have dynos to prove otherwise, i'd like to see them!
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Old Oct 31, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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was this back to back...not, dyno from last summer and then installed and lost???

interesting...
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