HELP FROM FELLOW RECARO RZ or SPIRIT R SEAT OWNERS!!
08-21-17, 06:07 PM
#52
Here's what they had to say about them.
The reason we put the kibosh on the whole project was multi fold. (We were very happy to import them based on pictures, but once we actually had a set in hand and dissected them, not only would I not put them in my car for fear of failure in an accident, I would never subject customers to this sketchy build quality). Were the quality as described, we would have moved forward but after taking them apart they were found to be (excuse my language) absolute dog ****. I hate being so blunt and frank on a public forum but I genuinely felt that in and accident there would be a very strong chance of dying due to the seat failing. The quality (in my expert or non expert opinion) was very bad.
The seat cores were supposed to be vacuum bagged carbon. They are not. It's a layer of carbon kevlar on the back (looks really nice) and then inside hand laid chopped strand fiberglass, and very very porous / poor quality at that, with cheap resin. There are voids and air pockets all through it.
The steel inserts which (as I originally understood it) were supposed to be wide large encapsulated threaded plates, were no more than a small insert. If you twist the seat you can hear it splintering and cracking at these mounts. These are the ONLY mounts attaching them to the car (it's a bottom mount seat) so if the cheap chopped strand fiberglass breaks free of the small mounts in an accident... you're free to move about the cabin
In general the build quality was not something I'd stand behind... especially at near $2000. They were made extraordinary cheap from the foam in the seats to the covers. One good thing was the plastic pieces though, I did feel those were made well like the side straps and the passthrough pieces.
The rails were scary. It was not professionally made, it looked hand made out of thin gauge metal in China. Again we're talking about a seat. This is not something I would skimp on and offered to re-engineer them, but we couldn't get the rest of the seat in workable/sell-able/safe condition.
It's sad everything turned out this way as I honestly wanted to import them and would have if they seemed even a reasonable quality, but the fact was so many corners were cut from materials to production... I could't work with it. I still have one here dissected. I'm not interested in stirring the pot but I don't want to leave any doubts as to my honest views on the very serious safety issues with the seats. The concept was sound but the execution was shoddy at best.
The seat cores were supposed to be vacuum bagged carbon. They are not. It's a layer of carbon kevlar on the back (looks really nice) and then inside hand laid chopped strand fiberglass, and very very porous / poor quality at that, with cheap resin. There are voids and air pockets all through it.
The steel inserts which (as I originally understood it) were supposed to be wide large encapsulated threaded plates, were no more than a small insert. If you twist the seat you can hear it splintering and cracking at these mounts. These are the ONLY mounts attaching them to the car (it's a bottom mount seat) so if the cheap chopped strand fiberglass breaks free of the small mounts in an accident... you're free to move about the cabin
In general the build quality was not something I'd stand behind... especially at near $2000. They were made extraordinary cheap from the foam in the seats to the covers. One good thing was the plastic pieces though, I did feel those were made well like the side straps and the passthrough pieces.
The rails were scary. It was not professionally made, it looked hand made out of thin gauge metal in China. Again we're talking about a seat. This is not something I would skimp on and offered to re-engineer them, but we couldn't get the rest of the seat in workable/sell-able/safe condition.
It's sad everything turned out this way as I honestly wanted to import them and would have if they seemed even a reasonable quality, but the fact was so many corners were cut from materials to production... I could't work with it. I still have one here dissected. I'm not interested in stirring the pot but I don't want to leave any doubts as to my honest views on the very serious safety issues with the seats. The concept was sound but the execution was shoddy at best.
