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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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Has anyone converted 93 A/C to 94+ 134 A/C?

I heard that it's a simple fitting conversion and to make sure that the old A/C is out before u add the 134.

Compressor and collector the same?
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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I think that is the case.
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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Keep the R12, its much colder than the newer R134. It just more hazardous to the environment. Also I have a early 94' with R12 from the factory.

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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 01:20 PM
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I was actually contemplating asking a similar question as I wasn't sure if the FD's were R134 or R12. So the '93's are R12 and (most) of the 94-95's are R134? Besides ebay, anyone know where to pick up R12? My A/C is warmer than my armpit and I keep it running quite a bit to keep the fan going. Thanks.
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 01:22 PM
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R12 is hellsa expensive. But it does work way better. R134a is basically ineffective past 105 degrees
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 01:24 PM
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I have converted, just one of the kits

Yes, 134a does suck. Works but sucks. I am thinking of going to two condensers.

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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 01:27 PM
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no the 94-95 comperssor inlet lines are MUCH larger than the 93, you cannot swap them out.

you can do a simple convert, drain fill, little adaptor kit, it works fine. if you wanted to use the R134a compressor you would need all new lines and even new condesnor dryer etc. or you could do some welding fabrication, but its not safe i hear to weld A/c lines.
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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my mechanic converted my work car over for me (90 CRX). he said that he just doesn't put as much pressure on the system with the R134. It works just fine and seems real cold. Of course any air seems ice cold compared to non at all....
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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i was looking at one of the conversion kits.

just seems to be a fitting.

i know the r12 is colder, but since i need to charge it up, i found the cost is mucho $$$$.
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 01:40 PM
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134a doesnt even compare to 12. Before the big movement to increase licensing on the 12 a guy I know bought cases and cases of r12. Thats where I got mine
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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Only 95's are 134. That is when it became a law. I have a manufacture date of dec 94 and mine is r12
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 02:37 PM
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my AC has never been charged and it is still ice cold, will freeze you right out of the car

not bad for 12 years old (my car was built in '92)

btw, anyone know where you can get R12 besides Ebay, just for future reference? thanks
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by BATMAN
i was looking at one of the conversion kits.

just seems to be a fitting.

i know the r12 is colder, but since i need to charge it up, i found the cost is mucho $$$$.
how many miles on the clock alain? near 250k now?

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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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I heard from my mechanic that the FD uses a closed system. R12 should never have to be charged. If its not cold anymore, it means that the fluid is leaking out somewhere which can equal $$$


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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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refrigerant has to be in a closed system. Custom making a/c tubing is kind of scary, a/c systems see lot of pressure, easily over 20 bar.
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 03:36 PM
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134A started in 1994. And yes, that is in every us vehicle.
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 03:37 PM
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if your car was maunfactured in late 94 it would be 134a
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 03:45 PM
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is this the Difference of Opinion section?
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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if it were u would login in one of many names.........
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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I just refilled my R12 and have a leak...

Anybody know where common leak areas are?

I have a 94 manufactured in 08/93...


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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by PandazRx-7
I just refilled my R12 and have a leak...

Anybody know where common leak areas are?

I have a 94 manufactured in 08/93...

Seals
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 05:20 PM
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You can easily find r12 everywhere, but you have to be licensed to get it. There is a web site that offers the training and test for like $15 then you can get r12 just about anywhere.

Ebay doesnt always work either, my friend tried to sell a can of r12 but ebay took down his auction. I think he could have gotten away with it if he included in the terms of his auction that the buyer must be licensed.

Best thing is probably Mexico. You can still get it there and bring it over the border. Just hide it under the seat or something
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 06:41 PM
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i put 134a on my 93 system. when i checked my a/c temp today, it read 37 degree.
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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I just got 'certified' !!
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