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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 12:50 PM
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hard to take apart the enigne do your self?

I have a blown front rotor, thanks who ever responded to me, and I'm thinking of doing it myself because I have a month break from school right now but I'm not sure I can handle it, especially cause I have no jack or anything, I can get the tools and compresor and stuff but whatever, what do you guys think, I'm broke and can't afford it,
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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 12:56 PM
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taking it apart isn't *too* bad, but putting everything back together 100% correct is the tricky part. There is a definite reason why professional rebuilds are so expensive .

Also, you will not enjoy getting the 19mm crank pulley nut off........
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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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so you don't think I could do it, and I could get a impact gun so why would it be so hard
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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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I know but if I follow some type of instruction it should work right
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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 03:50 PM
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ur best friend will be a service manual. I dont think it would be that bad though once u got some tools and an impact gun
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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 03:52 PM
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If you're not experienced enough to know whether you can handle it or not, you probably can't. Are you talking about rebuilding the engine, or just pulling it out of the car?

The 19mm crank bolt that Goodfella is talking about is nearly impossible. An impact gun usually will not work.
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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 04:11 PM
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it took 2 breaker bars, 2 jack handles and 3 people standing on my engine with my 300LB friend jumping on the bars to break that 19mm nut... impact gun will def not get that SOB off.

Its not hard to rebuild the engine, just its not cheap either to do it correctly. My advice to you is to buy the 13B rebuild video.. watch it like 5 times.. and see if you still want to do it yourself.
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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 04:16 PM
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it took 2 breaker bars, 2 jack handles and 3 people standing on my engine with my 300LB friend jumping on the bars to break that 19mm nut... impact gun will def not get that SOB off.
HOLY ****! You guys werent jokin.
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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 04:28 PM
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Buy the video. Watch it 10 times. Pull the engine yourself & send it out to a pro to be rebuilt. Trust me.

I've always been able those crank bolts loose with my 1" drive Ingersol Rand impact. Of course it cost $400, runs off of a $3k compressor & has a dedicated 1/2" air line :/

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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 05:51 PM
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if u dont even have a jack you will encounter so many problems caused by the lack of tools it will be worth it just to have your engine rebuilt by a shop.
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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 06:07 PM
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Just a thought on the crank bolt. Could you break the torque on it before you pull out the engine by sticking a impact grade socket on there with a big breaker bar. Then jsut tapping the ignition so the engine cranks just a bit. Essentailly using the engines own torque to break the torque on the main bolt. Of coarse orientate the bar so it doesn't smash anything.

This was a trick someone told me about while I was taking apart the engine from my friends supra. I never tried it though because by the time someone told me; I had already pulled out the engine.
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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 06:30 PM
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I've used that trick plenty of times on other engines Zoom, but I doubt you'd end up with anything more than a busted breaker bar on the 7's crank bolt, it's that tight

j.p.
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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 06:52 PM
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I didn't know if i was experienced enough to do a tranny conversion... but i did...

I didn't know if i was experience enough to do an engine R&R... but i did

I didn't know if i could piece together a custom turbo setup up... but i did

I didn't know if i could switch my interior from tan to black.... but i did...


The longer you ask questions... the longer that car is going to be down... start tearin into it
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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 07:54 PM
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Buy the video. Watch it 10 times. Pull the engine yourself & send it out to a pro to be rebuilt. Trust me.

I've always been able those crank bolts loose with my 1" drive Ingersol Rand impact. Of course it cost $400, runs off of a $3k compressor & has a dedicated 1/2" air line :/

j.p.
Hmmm, I guess that means my $300 Home Depot "Husky" compressor with *all* the accessories and 3/8" supply lline won't cut it.

But I DO have a really cool spring loaded retractable air hose reel (1/2", of course) that is bolted to my ceiling and allows me to pretend I'm in a pro garage at home. All the kids in my neighborhood think I'm a God. At least the little booger's bicycle tires are inflated properly

Ingersol Rand:

RX2Fast: I really admire anyone who tries to tackle a project they think is too hard for them, but trust me - this one is alot more difficult than you can EVER imagine, and requires tools and knowledge far beyond your average shade tree boinger mechanic.

Listen to TheSatanicMechanic (hey, that ALMOST rhymes!) - he speaks the gospel truth!
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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 08:03 PM
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After, 1 broken socket, 1 broken breaker bar, and extensive use of my nice 4 foot cheater pipe; I just went and borrowed my buddies 3/4 impact. It felt great when I kicked that nut's *** with the impact.
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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 09:48 PM
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Just go for it.
I asked myself that question alot when I wanted to take apart a 85' se engine and I did it. But I have never rebuilt one.

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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by thesatanicmechanic
I've used that trick plenty of times on other engines Zoom, but I doubt you'd end up with anything more than a busted breaker bar on the 7's crank bolt, it's that tight

j.p.
Could you just use a bigger socket and breaker bar? like 1" drive breaker bar and socket (do those even exist ?)
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 01:34 AM
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Is this your daily driver? Unless you have all the parts in hand before your one month break, I wouldn't try it. If its a second car, then go ahead and do it yourself but don't rush it.

You need to tear it down, clean it and inspect all the parts before knowing if you need to replace a major engine part that might not be in stock.

And that video is very good advice, I just started looking at it this weekend.

Jack
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 09:32 AM
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You can save yourself $1K By Pulling and re-installing the engine, the thing that made me decline doing it myself is I didn't have 1 Month, and I wanted it ported, while you have everything out, there's a lot to replace, that's childsplay to do while out but a PITA to do if it's back in...
I'd say, save an start gathering parts, also figure on the worst, as in your front rotor probhably has a scratched houseing and needs a new houseing, and possibly a tubo depeneding on the circumstances when it blew...
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 09:42 AM
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 10:51 AM
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has everybody forgotten about "el big nut" at the flywheel .....
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 11:03 AM
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El big nut aint ****.

Ok its on there really ******* tight. Still, had no problem removing mine with a 4 foot breaker bar. Hope you have a good clutch though. Or else you will deff. need a bad *** air wrench.

Good luck with the rebuild.
Dont listen to these bastards, watch the video, stick to the fourms, and label everything. Anythings possible when you put your mind to it.
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 11:15 AM
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Go for it good luck
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 11:18 AM
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The 52 mm (or is it 56?) flywheel nut is easy. My impact gun took that one right off. The crank pully bolt is ridiculous. I had a 2 ft breaker bar, about a 2 ft pipe, and then a 2 ft. crow bar in the end of the pipe on that bitch. So I had about 5 ft. of leverage, and a 4 ft. piece of angle iron bolted to the flywheel with my buddy standing on it. I weigh about 160 lbs, and had to jump on it several times to break it loose.

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has everybody forgotten about "el big nut" at the flywheel .....
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 11:23 AM
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we know man, we know.......
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