Solomon

Is there anything to gain from the Greddy FMIC 2row vs. the smaller Blitz SMIC?

SPOautos

Yea, cooling issues. There isnt going to be THAT much difference in performance.

The main thing is the smic will be prone to heat soak but the fmic will be prone to overheat issues. I say get the smic and put a fan on the back.

STEPHEN

adam c

iTrader: (2)

I say to use the blitz if you are keeping the stock intake. Use the greddy if you have an aftermarket intake.

Scrapiron7

I'd go with the FMIC if you want to clean up your engine bay and make it less cluttered.

ZeroBanger

The blitz should be good upto 15 psi and offers almost no lag and will look stock also installs in minutes.

the greddy will give more lag and block the radiator. You can make alot of power with the blitz. Im bias.

Solomon

well the car has the blitz in it. I was just thinking that the FMIC would be better. With
-GReddy Trust cat-back
-GReddy Airnix intake
-Blitz SMIC
-aftermarket downpipe
-M2 performance ast elimination
-M2 performance stage 3 ECU
would work nice with one. I think I will go with the Apex-i FC with commander instead of the M2 ECU.

Solomon

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Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

You IC choice should depend on your application (i.e. type of driving you will be using the car for). I'm not a fan of IC's hanging in the grill of the car (that and it's blocking airflow into the engine bay unless you create a custom duct to bring air from under the IC like some members have done).

IMO, keep what you have and enjoy the car. You haven't had the car that long so drive it and have fun.

Solomon

Hell, I have not even gotten the car! It is just going in the shop at Banzi Racing and while it is there i am thinking about doing some extras.
Looking forward to driving it. The car is a daily driver so everything I am looking at is on builet proof.

AntiVenom7

If you are going to go with a new FMIC from what I've read you should go with Apex or Blitz. They sit further back and cause less of the overheating/lack of airflow issues.

jspecracer7

to be completely honest, I used to have a pretty good size stock mount when I was stock twins back in the day. When I went front mount, I saw NO change in cooling the engine, but I saw a HUGE difference in cooling the air....and I felt absolutely NO lag.

Scrapiron7

I've had a Greddy FMIC and KOYO Radiator for quite a while now, and have never had any cooling problems, even on 90degree days.

Solomon

so what is better for the car? Cooler engine, or cooler air for the turbo's on a day to day drive in pretty hot weather, and 400 mile road trips? Not that those are that often.

jspecracer7

I also forgot to mention that when I was stock mount, I used to see 70+ C intake temps when I raced her hard. When I went FMIC, I saw 30~C intake temps...and my water temps stayed the SAME (according to both my Defi meter and my PFC)

AntiVenom7

i don't have one yet so I have to give you the sum of the threads that I have read.

with the right FMIC (stay away from the Greddy and I think the HKS, the ones that sit too far forward) you shouldn't see water temps elevate too much. your intake temps will be much lower. now assuming that you have enough fuel this should reduce the risk of detonation which is what causes destruction of the engine. Like I said this is just info I have gathered through the SEARCH feature, so I am talking about what other people are reporting and not personal experience.

HeatTreated

Anyone have the specs of the Blitz SMIC? (height, width, length)

Batmobile

The size of the Blitz SMIC compared to stock are almost identical. It is not worth you hard earned money. If you want a stock mount, get an M2 or at least a Greddy. If you decide to go with an FMIC setup, like many have mentioned, go with a Blitz or an HKS.

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

While the total size of the IC's are fairly close,

TYPE----[ W......L.........T ]----VOL---[FA, CA]
STOCK--[ 11.5" 4.5" 2.5" ]--129---[29, 52]
BLITZ---[ 11.0" 5.5" 4.0" ]--242---[44, 61]

The Blitz SMIC volume is almost twice the size of the stock (from the thickness being almost twice the size).

ZeroBanger

HI Batmobile, whats up?

anyway, I bought the blitz SMIC. it installs exactly as stock with no modifications to the car. It will easily pass an inspection since it looks OEM. I made an easy 315 rwhp @ 12 psi on that IC on my old stock engine. The intercooler offers the least amount of lag and pressure drop of any IC I can think of.

In combination with my water injection my intake temps drop to less than ambient on hard acceleration.

If you are running under 14 lbs of boost, I see very little benefit of getting a FMIC.

later.

HeatTreated

Yeah, the blitz smic is defintely not the same size as the stocker.
simply twice the thickness as is the SR motorsports one.
I will probably settle on the greddy.. but I can get the blitz for so cheap.

Solomon

ok, then the next question. If I start to run anything over 15psi (what is safe and fun?) with what I have on the car mentioned above, I will have to go to FMIC no matter what?

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

You are going to need more than just the choice of IC's for more than 15 PSI.

Learn to walk before you run. Get the car, drive it for a while and then think/research what you want to do with the car.

Solomon

Mahjik,
Good point. =)
Well the car comes with the blitz so I am better off than stock. What would some of you do then while the engine is out, and what to add. I am going to do a clutch/fly wheel I know.

ZeroBanger

solomon,

I can give you a clue, but to run more than say 12 psi, you will need an ECU, fuel injectors and fuel pump.

If you want to run more than 14 psi on the blitz you can do it with water injection, otherwise you need a larger FMIC (in my opinion).

Solomon

Here is a photo of the engine bay, should I make a cover for the air coming into the cooler? I like the looks of the other IC below it more.



The top photo is just very clean, love that look.