Have a few questions - just got a Greddy SMIC used. I only have one pipe and a couple of couplers with it. Is this version compatible with the stock piping - from what I understand there is one version for stock piping and one for other piping.

If I do need additional piping for the greddy smic - which pipes are they and where can I get them?

Thanks!

 

Which pipe did you get?

There should be a Greddy elbow, pipe coming from the elbow to the top of the i/c, and a s-pipe going to the y-pipe. It depends on which kit you need, from what I understand you can use the stock piping.

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I didn't know there were 2 versions of the Greddy smic but the one that I'm familiar with is a drop in replacement for the stock IC. The piping will be on top and bottom like stock. The stock rubber piping sucks - one of them usually will get a tear in it after 60K miles. I think M2 and some other companies sell a silicone piping kit. The Greddy IC is a nice upgrade if you plan on doing some mild-medium modifying.

 

I will now more when I get back to Dallas to check my parts. From the brief check I did - I don't think I have all the parts.

From what I gather -- the stock IC and piping would be best suited to couple directly to the IC sans the "accessory" pipes. Not from the angles but from the length of the pipes.

Either way I guess I need to know if I don't have all the parts then can I buy the correct ones to fix it??

 

I also got a used GReddy without both pipes. I'm not sure about two versions but if you get those other GReddy pipes that extend from the TB then you don't need the one pipe. Some people do this and then "misplace" the pipe. Later they sell the kit without the pipe.

So check my site for a little more info. You can easily replace the pipe. Contact me if you need some pointers.

BTW the two pipes are 90 deg and 45 deg. The 45 is the one that goes missing. There is no S pipe...

 

The 45 degree pipe is indeed the one which I am missing. As most, I would rather not upgrade the piping yet as I just spent enough on the IC and pfc.

If anyone has the 30 degree pipe and wants to rid themselves of it - lemme know.

While I am thinking about it I have a few questions....

-- preparation of the IC - I've straightened the bent fins - what else? Should I try and get any grime off the fins on the inside and or outside by soaking it? - If so - in what

-- Installation - I still have the stock AST - any foreseeable problems? Ducting mods - any recommended?

-- One other thing - I noticed that the side with the AST connection that the IC is bent in - is this normal?

-- Final observation - The screw holes in the top end tank go through to the inside of the IC - conceivably allowing minimal boost to bleed through if the screws are not tightened....

-- Thanks for listening

 

greddy smic use its own piping from the cross over pipe to the IC. But you do not need to upgrade the piping from IC to TB. (but sure would look alot nicer)

 

Just re-sell it and buy a FMIC!! Sorry, couldn't help it. I do hope you got a good deal though

 

I've watched the threads on SMIC vs. FMIC for quite a while - prolly reading all the threads that can be searched on either. Given Dallas traffic and the reports that I have seen on folks getting the same 1/4 mile times with either I chose the more conservative route...

Personally, I think many folks are swayed by the look of the FMIC. Personally, I don't need the IC exposed for looks or otherwise.

If anyone has any input on my ?'s above I'd appreciate it!

 

You should have no problems with the stock AST. Ducting... Yes, you need to create something. This is the biggest problem with this IC. I used sheet metal.

The bent bracket for the AST is normal.

I use thread loc on the screws...

 

The ducting is a problem. I have also just purchased a used Greddy SMIC and I am trying to fab up something myself. It looks like it can be done with the plate that comes with the unit and some sheet metal. But, it's not as easy as it looks.

The dinged-up side of the IC ... I think that's a fitment/wear-and-tear thing you end up dealing with when you buy used. I got it too. The bent fins is a good thing to do ... be careful! I wouldn't worry too much about the grim unless it's heavily deposited, or unless you're into the whole bling-bling crap.

 

redrotor - good points. actually my ast connector slightly bent the side of my IC while in transit.

The reason for wanting to clean up the fins (by soaking in something (cleaner of sorts)) was to get the IC back to its nice & new operating efficiency. Dirt & grime will certainly inhibit the IC's cooling capabilities.

p.s. mine came polished so, I feel obliged to keep that bling-bling shine.

 

Seeing how I like talking to myself...

I just bought the greddy 2 piece piping from RP (live 20 miles from me) and some incredibly overpriced couplers.

I figure I can now install my IC and be happy....

The *last* question i need to get answered is...... How does the pos duct that greddy gives you work if you plan to use the OEM duct piece? The reason I ask is the one I got is all bent to **** and would like to either - not use it or have it hidden from site!

Cya!

 

If it's all bent up, it doesn't. I was disgusted with the "ducting" they provided with the kit as well (as I'm sure all Greddy buyers are/were). What a joke. A sheet metal top piece, and a flat rubber piece for the bottom...that's it.

Easiest route would be to use one of the ready-made ducts like the Petit CoolCharge plastic duct or some other like piece. I couldn't do that at the time I bought mine, since I had a SPAL fan attached to the IC to push air through it while in traffic, otherwise the IC heat soaks like a ***** on hot days...the one big disadvantage of a SMIC. So I spent a weekend fabricating a duct using the stock piece with thick rubber mat extensions zip-tied to fit the larger IC-- yes, if you examine it closely it looks like s**t, but it's largely hidden underneath the big sheet metal piece provided with the kit, and it works perfectly. I'll get one of the Petit ducts later when I take the thing off to upgrade the stock radiator.

 

Funny,my Greddy SMIC does not fit the stock piping neither,which would not be a problem since I wanted upgrade it anyway,but the kits that I checked,are usually inlet:double 90 deg. and that's where the problem is cause I need only one 90 deg. bend.since the inlet on the IC is already pointing up.
So there might be either two versions of the IC or
my IC is not Greddy...

 

Yeah, I disliked the ducting of the Greddy SMIC kit, so I too went with the Greddy 2-row FMIC.

While I don't disagree that the FMIC Greddy looks fantastic (the best IMO), I honestly believe the FMIC is the way to go for maximum cooling of intake charge air, and decreasing IC heat soak between autocross runs and open track lapping sessions

I'll find out at my spring Putnam Park open track event. By then I'll have:
-Greddy 2-row FMIC
-Apex dual intakes (modded for Greddy 2-row FMIC)
-KDR ported motor
-Engine Torque Brace
-Japan-spec twins
-Apex Power FC (pre-tuned by Dave Barninger of KDR Performance Inc), 11 psi boost control
-Nippondenso Comp Fuel Pump
-1300-cc injectors.

 

The Greddy PIPING kits are designed to fit a STOCK (Mazda) IC they come with a "double" 90deg elbow and a ±30deg elbow in the 2 piece kit for use with the stock Y pipe crossover & intake "Elbow" and the 3 piece kits add a pipe for use with the Greddy "Elbow"
The Greddy SMIC kits come with a 90deg elbow, a ±30deg elbow & 4 silicone couplers to mate up to the stock crossover and "Elbow" or to the Greddy "elbow" with the pipe that is the "Third" piece in the 3 piece PIPE kit.

 

OK,do you know who sells them,(for the greddy IC)
I checked couple of stores,and they all seem to have
2x90 pipe,the only kit(that would fit) I found comes with the IC..........

 

I just got my greddy smic installed w/ the 2 piece pipe kit. I'm going to start another thread more appropriately titled.

Stay tuned....