got new turbos but still smoking at start up, help!!!
I'm having the same problem but I never touched the turbo's. I have a 94 (California emmissions) RX7. Everytime the car sits until cool (usually only when it sits over night) I will start it up and It will pour out smoke enough that you can't even see the car... Once you drive the car around the block and kick the turbo's in it will go away. So now I am forced to get in the car and the second I start it I have to race around the block (which is terrible for a car just warming up) Now I have my check engine light on and I did the diagnostic test and got code #16 which is the EGR valve (only on the California RX7's) My coolant light is also coming on and off and i see that around the coolant sensor there is a leak The only modification done to this car is the AST removal. (i don't think this leak or the AST removal has anything to do with the smoking problem) WHAT SHOULD I DO????
A little smoking is okay (less than 30 sec). Also, is the smoke white or light blue. It would be old motor (worn seal, blue smoke), bad water pump seal (white smoke), or running rich (blue or dark brown smoke).
I have 89K miles. It starts up and smokes to the point where I can't even see out of my back window. Then it calms down but doesn't go all away until I drive off. The motor could be too old but it still pulls strong, I just ran a 12.88 at the strip on saturday with a huge boost leak
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Have you tried disconnecting the OMP? If it IS injecting TOO much oil at start up, it will, obviously, cause you to see the cloud of smoke at startup.
Smell the smoke, and tell us if it smells like antifreeze or oil :p
Smell the smoke, and tell us if it smells like antifreeze or oil :p
Redtt I am having the same problem... I have a LARGE amount of smoke on start but My car seems to start and drive just fine.. It seems like if I accelerate quickly the smoke will go away sooner. Like I said it only smokes when it is fully cooled down like when I get up in the morning it will do this only the first time I start it that day. <--- I don't think that it is the Oil Metering Pump if it is only doing this the first time each day? As for the smoke I believe it is white and I haven't heard the one about the bad water pump seal yet. I am leaking coolant from where the coolant sensor threads in!? Please HELP ME and keep me informed of what you find out!
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Originally posted by Flybye
Have you tried disconnecting the OMP? If it IS injecting TOO much oil at start up, it will, obviously, cause you to see the cloud of smoke at startup.
Smell the smoke, and tell us if it smells like antifreeze or oil :p
Have you tried disconnecting the OMP? If it IS injecting TOO much oil at start up, it will, obviously, cause you to see the cloud of smoke at startup.
Smell the smoke, and tell us if it smells like antifreeze or oil :p
thanks
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The OMP is on the front left section of the engine. I gotta see exactly where the connector is to make sure you don't disconnect the wrong wire, but if you DO find it, ONLY disconnect it at start up. You can't leave it disconnected while driving because the OMP is used to lubricate the apex seals. You would kill the engine if you leave it off while driving.
Another solution would be to disconnect the metering oil pump permanently and go with a 2 cycle oil mix in your gasoline... It lubricates your apex seals and does so even better than the pump at full boost as the compression causes the oil to back up in the lines. This is what race rotaries do and it is better on the engine. Just get some AMSoil 100:1 2 cycle oil and add 8 oz to every fill up.
Flybye, can you please let me know where the connnector is? I'm smoking like crazy!! If worst comes to worst I'll just disconnect it permanently and use premix. Please someone show me where it's at
Most of the time the smoke is coming from worn out turbos. The oil leaks by the oil seals over the course of the night and is pooled up in the housing on start up. It burns off after a few mins when your oil pressure goes back down to normal pressures and the oil pooled up is burnt off. Even a rebuilt set of turbos can do this. Rebuilt turbos are not new turbos. They replace the oil seals but the wear inside can still cause blow by. You can't replace the worn metal so the tolerance between the oil seal and the housings is larger than when new but the size of the oil seal is the same. Understand? Rebuilds are usually a quick fix and are never as good as a new set. Hitachi turbos are not totally rebuildable in comparison to what a normal turbo is.
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Ok, lets start with test Number one.....
Look at the front of the engine. You will see an oil line coming out of the turbos and into the front housing. Right ABOVE that line is the oil metering pump. Simply look for its harness, disconnect it, start the engine and let it run for a few seconds and see if it smokes. Don't let it run too long unless you are running premix.
Actually, here is what you SHOULD do.....
Premix about 10oz of oil with a full tank of gas the day before. That way, when the morning comes around and you disconnect the pump, you wont have to worry about the engine since you will have oil with the fuel.
Look at the front of the engine. You will see an oil line coming out of the turbos and into the front housing. Right ABOVE that line is the oil metering pump. Simply look for its harness, disconnect it, start the engine and let it run for a few seconds and see if it smokes. Don't let it run too long unless you are running premix.
Actually, here is what you SHOULD do.....
Premix about 10oz of oil with a full tank of gas the day before. That way, when the morning comes around and you disconnect the pump, you wont have to worry about the engine since you will have oil with the fuel.
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Sorry! Been busy all day long. I hope you didn't disconnect the oil lines. You'd make a nasty mess. The WIRING harness to the pump is what you should try disconnecting.
Originally posted by Flybye
Sorry! Been busy all day long. I hope you didn't disconnect the oil lines. You'd make a nasty mess. The WIRING harness to the pump is what you should try disconnecting.
Sorry! Been busy all day long. I hope you didn't disconnect the oil lines. You'd make a nasty mess. The WIRING harness to the pump is what you should try disconnecting.
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No no.
Don't disconnect the oil lines. Disconnect the wiring harness from the oil metering pump!
Maybe you shouldn't try it
Don't disconnect the oil lines. Disconnect the wiring harness from the oil metering pump!
Maybe you shouldn't try it
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I'd offer pics, but I'm hardly ever home during the day 
The reason why I am suggesting this is because with the stock ECU and straight through exhaust, I'd get a lot of blue smoke in the morning. With the Power FC, it toned it done. The Power FC only controls certain funtions of the OMP, for some odd reason, but it was enough to not allow it to smoke like mad in the morning.

The reason why I am suggesting this is because with the stock ECU and straight through exhaust, I'd get a lot of blue smoke in the morning. With the Power FC, it toned it done. The Power FC only controls certain funtions of the OMP, for some odd reason, but it was enough to not allow it to smoke like mad in the morning.
Dude, I know not to take an oil line out. You mentioned that the harness to unplug is by an oil line so I'm just trying to figure out which you are talking about cause I see no harness by any oil lines. Only harness I see is the one for the EGR valve
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