zooq

i emailed a shop in Austin,TX called MZM performance and they gave me this estimate is it too much?(BTW i haven't bought an FD yet i'm just doing some research)

Hey i have 2 estimates here for you one with a 3mm engine and the other
with a mazda reman motor.
3MM ENGINE
GASKET SET ENG. $556.95
APEX 3MM 2 PIECE DOUBLE SPRING $750.00
REGROOVE ROTOR'S $350.00
ENGINE OVERHAUL/REBUILD,ENGINE,OVERHAUL/REBUILD
INCLUDES: DISSEMBLE&CLEAN ENGINE,SERVICE ALL INTERNAL
COMPONETS &TUNEUP LABOR $55.00 40HRS $2200.00
SHOP SUPPLY INCLUDES,CLEANING SUPPLY ACETON,HOLYMAR,FLUDS ETC. $250.00
ROTOR SIDE SEAL 12 $10.95 $131.40
ROTOR SEAL 4 $57.70 $230.80
ROTOR CORNER SEAL 13B EARLY TYPE 3MM SOILD TYPE 12 $6.50 $78.00
ROTOR SPRING 24 $5.95 $142.80
CORNER SEAL 12 $2.70 $32.40
OUTER FRONT SPRING 2 $6.20 $12.40
OUTER REAR SPRING 2 $6.20 $12.40
INNER REAR SPRING 2 $6.20 $12.40
INNER FRONT SPRING 2 $2.75 $5.50
THERMOSAT &GASKET $15.00
PART'S TOTAL $2565.05
PART'S TAX $211.61
LABOR TOTAL $2200.00
TOTAL $4,976.66
THAT ESTIMATE IS FOR A 3MM ENGINE,THE 3MM APEX SEAL'S WE USE WE GET OUT OF
AUSTRALIA

ESTIMATE FOR MAZDA REMAN MOTOR (stockmotor)
its going run out the door around $3500.00 to $3800.00 out the door

jasonred3rdgen

that is way too much!

Bacon

iTrader: (12)

yea both prices are high, 5k,, is rediclous, unless their giving you all new housings, if thir not you can get the same motor from pettit for like 1k less..and remains run abt a little over 2k from mallory mazda



damn and those prices are not even remove/ re install, just for the engine...wow

zooq

if i'm going to spend about 5-6K should i get the 20B?
is it good for daily driving (with stock turbos)?

Bacon

iTrader: (12)

5-6k on the engine alone?? just remeber the 20 b neds a custom subframe and all kinds of other bs..ive heard it can be done for alot less then pettit charges (37k) but yea its a great morot, fully streetable but will put down as much hp as hightly modified 13b's do...

did you call rotary performance? i dont know if the build engines but they do have a great reputation...
what are you lookin to get out of the motor? if you contimplating a reman you done need to even think of spending 5-6k
3-4 removed and reinstalled out the door for a reman (thats high 2 you shouldnt pay more then 500-1k for engine removal and re-install


try pinaple racing, i hear rob builds great engines..
or pettit builds great engines 2 and are cheaper then your quotes you have

zooq

thanks for the info Bacon.
i never thought that the 20B is that expencive. i thought it was like any simple engine swap.
i only want to have a 7 that runs low12 or high 11s. (safely,without having to replace something after each 1/4 mile pass).
BTW, how come no one talks about nitrous on this board?
i have a direct port on my 2000 celica and i love it .
is it bad on an FD?

Bacon

iTrader: (12)

eeehhh nos is for the big boys with big turbos, most of us are turbo , and most are sequental so we have a great power curve and instead of hitting abutton we have the power there all the time nos just requires proper tuning with rotaries ( rotaries dont like to be lean) and most people dont have the tuning capiblities unless their running a haltec and the their prob making enough power where nos would be more of an anoyance to get re-tuned than bennifical plus alot of people are anti NOS since F&F came out,

with my new setup i prob will have nos to help with spool and to give me more top end hp but its really not nesicary +@ like $1 a pound and considering a 40 pound bottle lasts like 4 min under wot it can get expensive,.....but iv never really priced nos, just asked the race shop by me one time when i stopped in


yea a 20b isnt just a simple swap, lots of fun with putting it in, its a dream for most of us

if you want mid 11's low 12 consistantly you prob want a ported motor, low 12's can be achieved with a few bolt ons and some drag radials, 11 can be done on stock twins and fully moded....

but reliable 11's on street tires would require a single turbo

evoandy

actually, I'm from austin, and car stuff tends to be expensive as FAWK in that city, so that might be a good estimate if you get it done in austin. I think there are shops in houston and Dallas that'll give you much better prices....