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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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Gauging Interest in Four Products' Brake Cooler

A company by the name of Four Products has begun to engineer a very effective brake cooling system. It is names the Fade Stop Brake Cooler, or FSBC. Here is their site. Four Products Homepage.
they currently do not have a set designed yet for the FD, but I e-mailed them and they plan to expand their development to more quickly engineer their design for more vehicles, including the FD at some point. I was told that the pricing will be around $120 dollars per set, or per axle, and that the rear axle set will cost less since the calipers are smaller. I came about this product in the current issue of Grassroots Motorsports Magazine. Although I have heard of such things like titanium backing plates that are simply a small plate, this product has cooling fins and shows impressive brake and brake fluid cooling. More info is on their site. I thought I'd just throw it out there and see what people think, perhaps a significant interest will allow a set for our cars to be produced sooner

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 06:56 AM
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It's interesting but i'm weary of "well engineered" bits of metal that are easy to install and provide fantastic advantages.

What did grassroots motorsports say?
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 07:39 AM
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It looks like it would require larger than stock wheels since there isn't much clearance between the stock wheel and stock calipers.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 07:48 AM
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It's just a heat sink...
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 08:25 AM
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it was within an article, like a subarticle of a car that was being prepped or something...and there was a bit in there about these cooling plates.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 08:28 AM
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you don't think there's and inch of clearance between the calipers and stock rims? I'll check later today...but im sure there is. I just personally think the big 4 pistons in front especially can benefit, especially for those who want to weekend autocross their cars or something and not worry about boiling off their brake fluid, possibly warping their rotors, or other things of that nature.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 08:35 AM
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It's perfect for ricers who run bigger wheels on stock brakes and have that cavernous space all around the rotors. But if you bent the fins to tuck to the inside, you could have a significant increase in cooling.

It might have a real use for track driving, where you're running high temp fluid and pads on stock brakes, but not upgraded to a bbk.

Reading more about their testing, the 20% cooler claim is wrong - they are saying that 405F is 20% cooler than 520F. Technically speaking you can't apply percentages to Fahrenheit temperatures.

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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Sr20fd3st
you don't think there's and inch of clearance between the calipers and stock rims? I'll check later today...but im sure there is. I just personally think the big 4 pistons in front especially can benefit, especially for those who want to weekend autocross their cars or something and not worry about boiling off their brake fluid, possibly warping their rotors, or other things of that nature.
Fresh 500+F brake fluid is always the first answer to any brake fade questions, followed by higher temp pads.

Assuming these are both in place already, I fully agree with your assessment.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 08:42 AM
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wow i wasnt expecting so much negative feedback lol.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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i remember there was large interest a while back for titanium plates that had no cooling fins, just sat between pads and pistons, and it got great response for a group buy or something..i figured these would do well also
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Originally Posted by Sr20fd3st
i remember there was large interest a while back for titanium plates that had no cooling fins, just sat between pads and pistons, and it got great response for a group buy or something..i figured these would do well also
The problem is, if the titanium plates are already doing the job, why would anyone switch? Aside from the titanium plates (which I did purchase), I would invest money into brake ducting before these. But that's just my opinion.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 09:50 AM
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I thought I remembered the titanium plates being pretty expensive...
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Sr20fd3st
I thought I remembered the titanium plates being pretty expensive...
$65 --> http://www.2dperformance.com/shims.asp
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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I assume the titanium plates serve as insulators between the hot pad and caliper?
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Originally Posted by dgeesaman
I assume the titanium plates serve as insulators between the hot pad and caliper?
Correct
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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eh, bump for the hell of it
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