NTIMD8

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Hey guys, I am doing the full non-sequential but keeping all emission related things on. Does anyone know of a vucuum diagram I could use? Or what solenoids should I keep hooked up? I searched but didn't come up with anything specific to non-Seq while keeping emissions.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

,Jason

slo

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use the NS diagram available in combination with the FSM and don't eliminate the emmisions crap.

If all you have to do is pass emissions then you can actually eliminate about half or more of the emission controlls.

My car passes the tailpipe test and the only remaining emission controlls are the air pump, directly connected to a universal main cat, the port air injection and pre converter, air controll valve etc aren't stricly required to just pass the test.

NTIMD8

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I read this...

But am confused as to which solenoids are being talked about.

In this link what solenoids would I need to keep (A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J)?

http://www.wrex-racing.com/docs/fd/v...se_diagram.jpg

It says leave the vaccuum lines connected to the 2nd and 3rd control solenoids (the 1st being the rearward one). So does that mean keep B and C or E and F? The term "control solenoid" is throwing me off. Are they all control solenoids or are only A, E, F, G, I, J control solenoids?

Thanks, Jason

NTIMD8

iTrader: (1)

Sorry I cant edit my post. I thought I would list the names of the solenoids to make it easier for anyone who can help.

A: Pressure Regulator COntrol

B: Relief 1

C: Switching

D: EGR

E: TUrbo COntrol

F: Chanrge COntrol

G: Double Throttle COntrol

H: Charge Relief

I: Wastegate Control

J: Turbo Precontroller

NTIMD8

iTrader: (1)

OK, Spent a lot of time reading and this is what I came up with for non sequential while keeping the emissions (Air pump and EGR). Experts please let me know if this is correct...

A: Pressure Regulator Control (Keep) (You can keep or remove this. If you remove you need to plumb to nipple on the LIM)

B: Relief 1 (Air pump) (Keep)

C: Switching (Air pump) (Keep)

D: EGR (Keep)

E: Turbo Control (Remove)

F: Charge Control (Remove)

G: Double Throttle Control (Remove)

H: Charge Relief (Remove)

I: Wastegate Control (Not needed due to aftermarket boost controller)

J: Turbo Precontroller (Remove)

NTIMD8

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No one went NS with keeping emissions?

dgeesaman

iTrader: (7)

That looks correct.

Dave

NTIMD8

iTrader: (1)

Thanks Dave!

,Jason

wb123

Possible to re route the vacum hoses as listed in the non-sequential diagram and be able to run fun fine under a non sequential turbo patter?
or is there more to it then just re routing turbo hoses and block off plates?

dgeesaman

iTrader: (7)

Block-off plates are for removing emissions.

You can run non-seq by changing the hoses and stuff only - it's called "poor mans nonsequential". "Full" non seq also takes out the hoses but also requires some welding on the turbos and removal of some stuff. Full conversion performs better.

Dave

wb123

What am i expecting if im doing the "poor mans" non sequential turbo vs the "rich mans" non sequential turbo.
Can anyone do a direct comparison?

dgeesaman

iTrader: (7)

The full conversion flows better and offers less lag and full boost at lower RPM.

But the poor mans conversion doesn't involve removing the turbos and welding things.

There is more info in the FAQ and archives.

Dave

wstrohm

Doesn't removing the double-throttle control result in a permanently-closed secondary throttle air path? i.e. don't you need vacuum to open the butterflies (haven't done the logic)?

NTIMD8

iTrader: (1)

Nope, it's the other way around.

wstrohm

OK, thanks for the info.