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Old Dec 9, 2001 | 12:41 PM
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did you know the center pipe on the exhaust of the F40 is the wastegate??!?! that is coooooool ****

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The F-40 IS turbocharged from the factory, I am looking at a book on it right now.
478 hp in normal stock form, a factory "upgrade" was available to take the car to 675...... my God!

I know the where the engine is
I was simply pointing out that rather than designing the car with the intercoolers in the side of the car in more direct airflow, as seen in the XJ220 (yeah, I found an example of a high end turbo car with essentially "front" mount ICs ) that Ferrari must not have worried about heat soak too much.....

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Old Dec 10, 2001 | 02:14 PM
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A-Spec: my tube bender didn't quite go up to that size so I used two big (7/8 and 1") combo wrenches. I just put the closed ends over the couple end and picked strategic places to do the bending... made em look just like the BLITZ pictures.

Anyway, on the IC topic SR even has an awsome horizontal mount with almost no pressure drop that I even considered. With a stock hood Ray said it worked very nicely and I figured with a vented style is would really kick ***, and keep the rad cool...

My deciding factors were design, what you actually got for the cost, safety(ie. bumper support) and install difficulty...
The APEXi FM was a good deal but I was doing custom intakes for cooler air with less expense.
The SR hor-mount was kindof expensive for what was included and there were no plans for vented hoods on the cars that were getting the ICs.
IMHO the BLITZ looked the best and had very good specs and the most stuff included for install.
And like I said, with the Fluidynes these cars have run excellent coolant temps.
As for AC both cars have them and my Supra with a FMIC still cooled me down at traffic lights in the middle of MD summer, so I figured the FDs AC just might work okay too...
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Old Dec 10, 2001 | 06:19 PM
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another really nice FMIC sutup is the custom one at www.turbostreetfighter.com . it uses a spearco core, and looks really nice. not too expensive either. the only thing is, the piping looks kinda ghetto.
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Old Dec 11, 2001 | 06:30 PM
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Ok so Im narrowed down to the GREDDY FMIC and the APEXI FMIC....

Anyone have any pics of the Apexi FMIC mounted on the car with a stock bumper?
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Old Dec 11, 2001 | 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by Rotary93
Ok so Im narrowed down to the GREDDY FMIC and the APEXI FMIC....

Anyone have any pics of the Apexi FMIC mounted on the car with a stock bumper?
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Old Dec 11, 2001 | 06:58 PM
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Old Dec 11, 2001 | 07:01 PM
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with the Apex front bumper...


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Old Dec 11, 2001 | 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by Rotary93
Ok so Im narrowed down to the GREDDY FMIC and the APEXI FMIC....

Anyone have any pics of the Apexi FMIC mounted on the car with a stock bumper?

Ok...I'd rather you get the APEXi kit then the greddy...but you have one BIG issue with the Apexi FMIC...I was under the impression that the routing on the piping does not allow you to use the m2intake that you state on your mod list...

You can however get a rx7fashion FMIC...same skyline GTR core as apexi and you can use the box style intake....

Just a thought...
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Old Dec 11, 2001 | 07:11 PM
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Looks pretty good with the stock bumper....How is the A/C condensor moved? I heard you really have to lay it flat....Is this true?

Do I have to relocate theBattery on any of these ICs?

Anyone with pics of installations for these IC (Greddy or Apexi) Please email them to me at Rotary93@optonline.net
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Old Dec 11, 2001 | 07:12 PM
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Ok...I'd rather you get the APEXi kit then the greddy...but you have one BIG issue with the Apexi FMIC...I was under the impression that the routing on the piping does not allow you to use the m2intake that you state on your mod list...

You can however get a rx7fashion FMIC...same skyline GTR core as apexi and you can use the box style intake....

Just a thought...
i dont like the RX-7 Fashion unit because: A) $$$ B) gotta remove the bumper reinforcement C) the endtanks are designed like **** and give terrible pressure drop

i would reccoment the Williams FMIC from www.turbostreetfighter.com . you will be able to keep your intake.
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Old Dec 11, 2001 | 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by Rotary93
Looks pretty good with the stock bumper....How is the A/C condensor moved? I heard you really have to lay it flat....Is this true?

Do I have to relocate theBattery on any of these ICs?

Anyone with pics of installations for these IC (Greddy or Apexi) Please email them to me at Rotary93@optonline.net
thanks
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yeah, the AC Condenser must be relocated to a horizontal position. some say this reanders your AC useless, but for some it still works ok.

you dont have to relocate the battery with the Apex FMIC, but you have get a smaller one, like the Miata battery.

do a seach. there are many pics.
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Old Dec 11, 2001 | 07:59 PM
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i dont like the RX-7 Fashion unit because: A) $$$ B) gotta remove the bumper reinforcement C) the endtanks are designed like **** and give terrible pressure drop

i would reccoment the Williams FMIC from www.turbostreetfighter.com . you will be able to keep your intake.

Ok JoeD

a) cant argue with that
b) ok that, but I'm sure other FMIC require that too
c) Not be be an ***, but I've never seen numbers to prove or dissprove that statement...so I dont know...Can you back that up ?

I'm a little lazy right now to go look on his website...I'm sure williams IC is nice, but does he state pressure drop on his IC ?
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Old Dec 11, 2001 | 08:11 PM
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does any have the IC from turbo street fighter? Any comments on its performance and fitment?
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Old Dec 11, 2001 | 09:23 PM
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Rotary93,
I know for a fact that with the A'pexi fmic the AC will become practically useles. The problem is that the condensor must be layed horizontally and the intercooler actually sits "on" it(it might not actually touch it, but it's very close). Having the condensor flat will prevent "any" and "all" air from going through it which makes it useless, preventing the AC coolant from cooling down. In the end, if your AC "does" work, it will be very insufficiently, and I can't imagine what it would be like driving my car with black leather seats on a 95+ degree summer day. If you can live without the AC though then the A'pexi is your best bet.
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Old Dec 11, 2001 | 10:48 PM
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RARE PICTURES!

Got lucky here and actually got these things in one place at one time.
Sorry i left the Dimentions at work with them. But enjoy the Pics

The Gang:
Left to right: Greddy FMIC, Apexi FMIC, Greddy SMIC




Top View:


Side View:

Greddy Fins:


APEXi Fins:
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Old Dec 12, 2001 | 12:52 AM
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David Payne on the forum has the Apex kit and I know he told me the AC was still ok. It does get 90+ here in TN with near 100% humidity durning the summer. While not perfect, don't forget that heat rises. I am just curious how you know for a fact-have you owned and used this IC?
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Old Dec 12, 2001 | 01:03 AM
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Hey Ninjak,

Is that the GReddy 2 row or 3 row??
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Old Dec 12, 2001 | 01:15 AM
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Originally posted by Dr Wankel
Hey Ninjak,

Is that the GReddy 2 row or 3 row??
its the 2 row.
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Old Dec 12, 2001 | 01:19 AM
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anyone out there have the Williams FMIC from www.turbostreetfighter.com ???
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Old Dec 12, 2001 | 01:23 AM
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The A/C may work somewhat with the Apexi unit, but as I said earlier in a previous post the pressure in the system will insure that it does not last long unless you rig up some extra fans. Even then it is so close to the plastic shield under the car that I don't know where its going to suck air from. I liked the Apexi IC but I like my A/C too and I have seen what can happen when condensor fans don't work on regular cars. It isn't pretty.
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Old Dec 12, 2001 | 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by JoeD


its the 2 row.
Yep its the two row... ive never seen the 3 row so i really dont know how to tell the difference between the two.
Huy
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Old Dec 12, 2001 | 08:45 AM
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Does anyone know of a FMIC that works with a cold air box, like M2 or CWR? It looks like the Blitz might, but I'm not sure.
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Old Dec 12, 2001 | 09:32 AM
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Does anyone know of a FMIC that works with a cold air box, like M2 or CWR? It looks like the Blitz might, but I'm not sure.
either RX-7 Fashion, XS (which is not made anymore) or Williams Tuning.
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Old Dec 12, 2001 | 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by machinehead
The A/C may work somewhat with the Apexi unit, but as I said earlier in a previous post the pressure in the system will insure that it does not last long unless you rig up some extra fans. Even then it is so close to the plastic shield under the car that I don't know where its going to suck air from. I liked the Apexi IC but I like my A/C too and I have seen what can happen when condensor fans don't work on regular cars. It isn't pretty.

I have hooked up a fan to the condensor and wired it to turn on when I turn the A/C on. Does a great job and didnt cost much for the small fan.

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Old Dec 12, 2001 | 01:25 PM
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Blitz will not accomodate any of the cold car boxes for sure. I had to sell my RX7fashion intake after I got the blitz fmic.

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