Try to invest in a Halon fire extinguisher, they are a bit pricey but are made for fuel/oil fires.

http://www.h3r.com/products/home_vehicle.htm

http://www.skygeek.com/fiex.html

2 websites that sell them, I HIGHLY reccomend buying one. They dont leave any powder residue. They are the best for our cars, I highly reccomend buying one. This is what I use in my car, a good friend of mine had a fire in his 300zx, it put out the fire in 2 seconds, literally. A good fire extinguisher is a must for our cars. have a good one!

 

i have mine on stand by at all times.

 

Doug, that and they don't leave a residue behind that will destory your interior or engine bay components like other extinguishers.

~Ramy

PS: You know this topic has been covered like 100 times already, ESP in the 3rd gen section, where we actually NEED extinguishers?

 

Pricey isn't even the word for how much those cost. That's a Ferrari owners price range for a f. ext. Seriously. None the less it's still a very important product to have.

 

Oh c'mon...it ain't THAT bad. When you think of how important it is to have one that WORKS, and will cover all sorts of diff fires (fuel, electrical, etc), will allow you to salvage what's left (no film/residue that destroys the part), and works INCREDIBLY fast and well, it's well worth the cost w/o thinking twice.

You'll need a 2.5 lb bottle at MINIMUM, and even then, you'd be surprised/shocked how fast a 2.5 lb bottle empties itself. Realistically speaking, a 3 - 5 lb bottle is what you're looking at to supress/manage a small fire. If that's not enough, you're gonna need the fire dept

Oh and Ferriari owner's price range? C'mon...it costs a couple hundred to change your oil and over a grand to change your brake pads for Ferraris. This is HARDLY in that price range.

 

I have one similar to this:



..for personal watercraft. i figure if its meant to work on fires in the water its prob good enough for my car, smaller than the other ones I could find as well. It fits perfectly in the compartments in the rear. Are these bad?

http://www.shop.com/op/aprod-p21209960?sourceid=3

 

They're not bad. They'll work pretty well. But the kind you have is a chemical fire extinguisher which will leave a fine white power all over everything if you ever use it. A pain to clean up. But I figure if you have a fire you're probably not too concerned about the cleanup...

 

With all the FD's that have been lost or damaged due to engine fires, could we get a groupbuy on some decent fire extinguishers?

 

Unless Im reading things wrong, it looks to be $135 for the 2.5lb bottle. Is that a bit pricey for a fire extinguisher... yes. But compared to all of the other crap we put into our FDs, and how much this can save in the event of a fire, I think its well worth it.

 

they rock, I've never really looked at other posts about halon fire extinguishers, all I know is that its the best thing you can get for your car, to save you thousands.

 

I guess this thread came about after seeing TwinTurbo93's FD.

I'm about to finish up my Blk FD and when it runs, I'll have a 7lb Halon just in case at least until I know the car is working in perfect form (I also have a 2lb tied to the rear bin).

 

If we can agree to a size, I'm sure that's possible. I've spoken to the guys at H3R before, and they're incredibly nice

Hey Phil, where you gonna hang your Firefighter hat?

~Ramy

 

id def be in for a group buy

 

LOL! 7LBs of Halon 1211 is quite a bit.. They don't make 1211 because its bad for the Ozone.. But most of us with 7 kill ozone more than general population..

I was told Halon 1211 is the most effective one to buy. Its hard to find and expensive, but well worth the cost. You can't buy it new but you could get it used and get it recharged. But apprently you have to have the original sticker stating it had Halon 1211 and manufactured before 1994.

I've hear Halon 1211 is 30times worse than CFC.

 

me aswell

 

id definatly be in for a group buy as well. the project car that i bought was the result of a engine fire. everything under the hood was gone. the fire extinguisher that was used to put out the fire was the normal poweder type. this later caused extensive mold growth on every surface of teh interior after the rainy season started. apparantly the normal fire extinguisher poweder acts almost like a steriod for the growth of bacteria etc etc. i wish i still had pics (hard drive crashed) .... it looked like something out of a horror movie.

anyway back on topic, i think that every FD owner needs an extinguisher of some sort in their car considering the heat generated under the hood, and the age of our cars.

the only thing that worries me is PLACEMENT. someone just posted in this thread that their extinguisher fit "nicely in the bins behind the seat" ... but that extinguisher will turn into a missile bouncing around the car with great force during a colision. (and most of us FD owners DO drive quite fast ). anyway, the 2 things that id like to say are:
1) im in for 2 extinguishers if we do a group buy
2) lets do a little talking about propper mounting of extinguishers (or any loose heavy objects in the FD). i.e. how are you guys fastening them down and where?

thanks, heath

 

I would be in on one or two myself for a group buy as well.. I have a couple friends who would add on im sure.

 

I'm in for one too, what about mounting it to the floor of the passenger compartment directly in front of where the passenger seat is(pushed up against the seat). That way it dosent interfere with the passenger but can be relatively easily grabbed by the driver.

 

i'd almost certainly be in for a group buy on say a 3-5lb. extinguisher for the 'ole girl. if anyone follows through on this, please keep me posted

 

Heath, not trying to be an a$$, but believe it or not, the topic of placement of the extinguisher has been discussed several times, as have the various types of extinguishers.

To save you the time, the summary is simple: the best unit is a Halon unit. It evaporates on contact, leaving no damaging powdery residue, has heat seeking capability. and doesn't impair your vision. While I haven't done much research into which type (H3R offers many different ones), I'd go w/ Phil on this (he knows his stuff) and say Halon 1211. While I will indeed consult the experts @ H3R for the best extinguisher, from my previous convo w/ them and research, it seems the best overall would be a Model B355T 1211 Halon Commercial Fire Extinguisher. Capacity (lb.) = 5 lb. (that's what matters), Gross weight (lb.) = 8 lb 2oz. In addition to the general safety features their extinguisher units have, this one has "Industrial" quality metal valves and siphon tubes and low temperature operation to -65º F (important if you live in an area where it gets cold, believe it or not). Lastly, this one is specifically designated to be effective on chemical fires & flammable liquids, which is a must, given that the majority of fires I've heard of where electric or fuel.

As for placement, anywhere plastic is a BAD idea. So no mounting on top of the bin lids, no A-pillar crap (if you can fit it there, you might as well buy it for decoration only). In the bins is extremely unaccessible. The best two spots are 1) like canadaisintexas mentioned, in the passenger footwell. Specifically, if you use METAL (not plastic!) brackets to secure it to the front of the passenger seat rail, that would be ideal. It would be hugging the seat so it would never interefere w/ the passenger's footspace, and would be well within the driver's reach. Plus, the seat's not going anywhere If you get in an accident where your seat travels...well...an extinguisher is the least of your concerns

The other excellent spot is in the trunk. How accessible is that? It's not. But I'm going to be loading prob one or two 5lb bottles back there, cuz I'm having Mitch Piper (former lead fabricator & engine builder of PFS) install a Halon extinguisher kit for me. 2 point = 5 lb bottle (pushing it), 3 point = 10 lb bottle. One nozzle goes to the engine bay, the other to the interior, and the third to the gas tank. Actual hardcore racecar setup. And of course, it's got a failsafe activation method from inside the cockpit. That's prob what I'm going to get one of those Fighter Jet flipswitches for (so no accidentally pushing the button haha). That system is fastest and is actually the best, since popping the hood to extinguish a fire actually feeds the fire oxygen.

If you guys keep coming (show SERIOUS interest), I have no problem contacting H3R and trying to get approval for a group buy request within a week or so. So yea I'll def. move on it. But I'd like to iron out the details here, namely price.

The Model B355T 1211 Extinguisher I mentioned above runs $119.95 reconditioned, or $209.95 new. Those are the list prices; hopefully we'll get 'em cheaper in a group buy. But my point of inquiry is, if that's the until we're agreeing upon, is that the max price ppl are willing to pay? In short, if ppl think they're getting this for $50, and because of that are showing interest, that obviously isn't realistic, and I don't wanna look like a fool w/ these H3R ppl. So just wanna make sure everyone knows what they're getting into. You pay to play, and this isn't an area to skimp on IMHO

~Ramy

 

I would be seriously interested in a B355T 1211 reconditioned at a good price.

I have a small First Alert dry chem in my FD right now and im starting to realize it wouldnt do much if anything in a fire...

 

I'm interested as well.

 

Ditto. I'm also interested.

 

interested too including a metal mounting bracket.

 

Ramy,

Thaks for taking the lead on this. I for one, am willing to pay $200.00 plus for a little bit of "fire protection". Given the amount we spend on mods, this is cheap!

Let me know if this GB come into play and you can count me in!