Fire extinguisher mount
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Fire extinguisher mount
I am going to put an extingusher in. I'm looking for ideas for a good mounting location. Geez! I gotta WORK now. What the hell is wrong with these people. Don't they know I have a very important RX-7 question to post! Some people's children.
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My passenger storage bin has my battery in it and the driver side has some oil and coolant so right now my extinguisher sits in the driver side bin and the lid wont close. I was thinking of mounting it to the removable divider between the hatch and front areas, if not that then mounting it somewhere in the passenger foot area.
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Originally posted by Snook
why not in the trunk?
I'm guessing so you can put the fire out quicker?
why not in the trunk?
I'm guessing so you can put the fire out quicker?
Tom93R1,
The passenger side on the floor just inside the door (just a little down from the ECU location) is another place that you might think about. I didn't want to do this because of my wife getting in and out of the car.
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Originally posted by Mahjik
Tom93R1,
The passenger side on the floor just inside the door (just a little down from the ECU location) is another place that you might think about. I didn't want to do this because of my wife getting in and out of the car.
Tom93R1,
The passenger side on the floor just inside the door (just a little down from the ECU location) is another place that you might think about. I didn't want to do this because of my wife getting in and out of the car.
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WhtRocket ,
aren't you an old fart why do you want to be ricing up your ride with a fire extinguisher. j/k what made you decide you needed one?
jonski, does your driver side storage bin still work?
aren't you an old fart why do you want to be ricing up your ride with a fire extinguisher. j/k what made you decide you needed one?
jonski, does your driver side storage bin still work?
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mine's is behind the driverside seat on the floor. I was thinking of mounting it or strapping it down to the rear strut bar..but that would really hinder rear vision.
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Nice
Jonski, That looks cool. Maybe I'll try that. Mounted on the rear strut brace but underneith would be cool but you would have to give up the rear panel and stuff cover. or cut a hole in the panel. I usually mount it in front of the passager seat but then of course the seat does not move.
TTB, yeah that's right. Bring grandpa his NOS boy. I gots some rice to cook I'm only 39 so only technically could I be your daddy j/k. Remember, your the one who push the "smartass" button on grandpa's Lazyboy.
It was the smell of gas coming from either the injectors or FPD that got me thinking but then I remembered wayyyy back in the day, when I was a snot nose punk with a spitfire we all had extinguishers. So why not now. Next time I drive up on a CarBQ I'll have better cooking tools. It's like a handgun, when you really need it is too late to go buy one.
TTB, yeah that's right. Bring grandpa his NOS boy. I gots some rice to cook I'm only 39 so only technically could I be your daddy j/k. Remember, your the one who push the "smartass" button on grandpa's Lazyboy.
It was the smell of gas coming from either the injectors or FPD that got me thinking but then I remembered wayyyy back in the day, when I was a snot nose punk with a spitfire we all had extinguishers. So why not now. Next time I drive up on a CarBQ I'll have better cooking tools. It's like a handgun, when you really need it is too late to go buy one.
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the option of the passanger side after the ECU has been done by me also. didnt screw it through the carpet or anything. its there with some velcro(just the scratchy part)and it grabs into the carpet. doesnt budge at all. i just have my passangers step over it. takes me all of 1 second to reach it without a passanger. also have one in the trunk. i would rather be safe than sorry, so i have a spare
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haha..yea, i think you're technically right, at 12 a boy could father a kid. anyways, i had the same problem when i got my car. wished i never fixed it, maybe could have gotten insurance to pay for new engine...just a though . good luck.
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When mounting the bottle remember that you do not want that thing flying around in a crash. The plastic mounting straps that come with the bottle will NOT hold it in place in an even fairly low speed crash. Even if you replace the straps with steel ones if you screw it into plastic, well... Also you want it where if you get into a crash it will not be smashed or jammed into/behind anything like a broken seat (stuck behind the seat that now won't move) or under the dash etc. Not mounting it at all is asking for trouble. I put mine in the bin behind the passenger side. It is the only thing in the bin. I can reach it easily while sitting in my seat,and there is little chance of it getting jammed in there or stepped on, or flying out.
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Fire Extinguishers
If y'all are truly serious about having a fire supression system that is both effective and preserves the car, you may want to consider a Halon based system. The 5 lb refillable bottle mounts in the rear baggage area and has piping and nozzles to spray both the cockpit and engine bay at the pull or push of a button.
Halon is a gas that leaves no residue and does not screw up electronics. Cost is about $300 and should reduce insurance premiums.
Why would anyone want one? My 1st 3rd gen burned to the ground back in May. The fire started in the engine bay and spread so fast it would have been stupid to try to lift the hood to use any conventional fire extinguisher.
See the information at Summit Racing for details. http://www.summitracing.com
and search for fire extinguisher
Halon is a gas that leaves no residue and does not screw up electronics. Cost is about $300 and should reduce insurance premiums.
Why would anyone want one? My 1st 3rd gen burned to the ground back in May. The fire started in the engine bay and spread so fast it would have been stupid to try to lift the hood to use any conventional fire extinguisher.
See the information at Summit Racing for details. http://www.summitracing.com
and search for fire extinguisher
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I don't know how safe HALON would be in the passenger area of a car.Anyone seen the warnings on HALON protected rooms. Usually computer/phone rooms.The reason it is used in such applications is that it does not leave any residue but would also VERY QUICKLY kill any persons traped in the room. That is why it is not used for fire supression in the entire building. It basically replaces all oxygen in the area snuffing the fire and people.
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I don't know how safe HALON would be in the passenger area of a car.Anyone seen the warnings on HALON protected rooms. Usually computer/phone rooms.The reason it is used in such applications is that it does not leave any residue but would also VERY QUICKLY kill any persons traped in the room. That is why it is not used for fire supression in the entire building. It basically replaces all oxygen in the area snuffing the fire and people.
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Halon is safe enough to be approved for use in race cars. Maybe I wouldn't want to sit there breathing it, but I didn't plan on spending alot of time in a burning vehicle anyway.
You are right about halon not being used as a whole building supression system. There are a couple of reasons for that.
1. in a building you don't know the halon has been discharged, in the car---you discharge it.
2. it takes longer for people to exit a building than it does to exit a vehicle-----fewer floors.
Why attempt to scare people off from a perfectly safe and effective alternative fire supression that is sanctioned and used by racing drivers on a daily basis?
Halon is not a poison in the usual sense of the word, it simply removes oxygen from air. Hold your breath for a few seconds.
BTW do you suppose Summit Racing would sell Halon extinguishers if they KILL PEOPLE? c'mon----try thinking
You are right about halon not being used as a whole building supression system. There are a couple of reasons for that.
1. in a building you don't know the halon has been discharged, in the car---you discharge it.
2. it takes longer for people to exit a building than it does to exit a vehicle-----fewer floors.
Why attempt to scare people off from a perfectly safe and effective alternative fire supression that is sanctioned and used by racing drivers on a daily basis?
Halon is not a poison in the usual sense of the word, it simply removes oxygen from air. Hold your breath for a few seconds.
BTW do you suppose Summit Racing would sell Halon extinguishers if they KILL PEOPLE? c'mon----try thinking
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If your fire extinguisher is a fashion accessory then you mount it high where other motorists will be able to see it and understand how cool you are.
If you are purchasing an extinguisher to protect you from fire, then you should use the following two tips to choose your mounting location.
1. Mount the extinguisher as low as possible. You don't want the heavy item to become a missle in the event of a collision.
Definitely never mount anything on a roof column. An airbag can easily force a column mounted item through the back of your skull. Alternatively, in a rollover, the item will likely fly out the window and be out if reach if you need it.
2. Mount the extinguisher (ideally) where you could potentially reach it when buckled in.
You don't want to be able to see your extinquisher sexily mounted on the rear deck as you are helplessly pinned in your seat and beginning to burn to death.
It is funny how being "cool" can get you burned.
If you are purchasing an extinguisher to protect you from fire, then you should use the following two tips to choose your mounting location.
1. Mount the extinguisher as low as possible. You don't want the heavy item to become a missle in the event of a collision.
Definitely never mount anything on a roof column. An airbag can easily force a column mounted item through the back of your skull. Alternatively, in a rollover, the item will likely fly out the window and be out if reach if you need it.
2. Mount the extinguisher (ideally) where you could potentially reach it when buckled in.
You don't want to be able to see your extinquisher sexily mounted on the rear deck as you are helplessly pinned in your seat and beginning to burn to death.
It is funny how being "cool" can get you burned.
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Halon is not that bad
Halon is used in lots of different applications and I have acutally been in a few episodes where it went off. Chances are with this that you will only put it in the engine compartment, spraying on the motor where it could start a fire (from the front and then from the rear).
If Halon does get in the same compartment that you are in, it will merely take all the Oxygen out of the air, smothering the fire, but you will have ample time to get out. Just hold your breath until the air clears.
A Halon 'Shot' lasts only about a second and then the fire is out. Unlike a fire extinguisher that can last for a couple of minutes.
Have seen it in many different vehicular uses, usually where the engine is but also in the crew compartments where the people are. As far as computer rooms warnings, prolonged exposure to closed areas that have Halon can hurt you. To be effective in large areas like these, you have to seal the area so you can fill the room with the Halon to remove all the Oxygen to snuff the fire. If you are in there you can suffocate. In your car though, I don't think that you will have a problem.
If Halon does get in the same compartment that you are in, it will merely take all the Oxygen out of the air, smothering the fire, but you will have ample time to get out. Just hold your breath until the air clears.
A Halon 'Shot' lasts only about a second and then the fire is out. Unlike a fire extinguisher that can last for a couple of minutes.
Have seen it in many different vehicular uses, usually where the engine is but also in the crew compartments where the people are. As far as computer rooms warnings, prolonged exposure to closed areas that have Halon can hurt you. To be effective in large areas like these, you have to seal the area so you can fill the room with the Halon to remove all the Oxygen to snuff the fire. If you are in there you can suffocate. In your car though, I don't think that you will have a problem.
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I have fire extinguishers in all my cars. In my RX7s they sit directly in front of the passenger seats (actually in the crevice between the seat and the tunnel.) They are not mounted and have never moved; however after reading this thread, I do think I will try tomorrow to find a way to put it into some type of quick release.
I like having the bottles in this position because it is a quick and easy reach to get to it in case I need to grab and go.
I like having the bottles in this position because it is a quick and easy reach to get to it in case I need to grab and go.
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Originally posted by apneablue
I kinda placed mine the same place Konski did but just on the devider...
I kinda placed mine the same place Konski did but just on the devider...
This is what I was thinking of doing. I was going to use some alum plate on the back of the divider and run the bolts thru the divider and the alum plate. This would secure the fire ext to the divider so that it couldnt fly off. My only concern at that point is if the added weight to the divider would cause the divider to come undone and go flying forward. Its not really held in place very well so you never know.
So I've heard a lot of people day keep this in mind or dont do this or that but I havent heard ANYONE say where a very good secure reachable place would be. If it needs to be within reach with the seat belt on there are not very many places it could go except on the floor in front of the drivers seat...but that would depend on the size of the fire ext
I'm glad this topic came up cause I would really like to get a good ext mounted in a really good place
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Originally posted by jeff48
-try thinking
-try thinking