d1rx7

im not mocking the evo, i just thought i would show that vid as they are all stock, i dont like evos or any awd car, i just love my 2 fds, got a mate who has a wrx and he was just takeing off out of the corners and i couldnt do nothing, till i was out of the conner, i wasnt pushing my car to the extrem as im still geting use to it, so yea i know that awd cars handle well, but still think a fd will out handle a evo on a track

BlkS5TII

Thank you for your unbiased opinion. I'd like to hear from people that have actually driven/owned both. I'm looking to buy an FD in the very near future, so maybe I'll let you all know then.

Mazda_Power

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Oddly enough, I've driven an EVO 8, but never an FD so I don't really have an opinion. I can say that the Evo handles so well it would be very difficult to out do.

KeloidJonesJr.

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Wow, so well said. Though RWD is good at putting power down to the ground (pushing) but AWD is superior when it comes to that. Hope that helpS?

John Magnuson

From my experience at various west coast road course race tracks a well set up EVO or STi will equal a stock or mildly modified FD in lap times. Of course this is given that the drivers are of equal skill.

My mildly modified FD has beaten semi-professionally driven stock STi and EVO cars at various time trials even in traction impaired conditions. (by narrow margins)

However, give the STi or EVO a few choice modifications and we're essentially equal. Since my FD is a bit modified I'd have to say that an FD and STi or EVO are essentially equally matched for lap times.

However, the FD is much more fun to drive. In my opinion (and the admitted opinion of many an EVO or STi owner) oversteer is much more fun than constant understeer. True, the FD can be a bit more challenging to get around a track in a fast manner - but that's part of the fun, right?

I have the greatest respect for the engineering and performance of the STi and EVO. Given that they are sedans their performance is most impressive. However, I have more fun in my FD and I'm glad I have it as my track car. What is an amateur track day about if not fun?

azn akira

i've driven a stock evo and a ~400whp evo with r compounds, i also own an fd. the evo does handle very well. its corner entry and cornering speed is almost as high as the fds. it has a lot of traction out of corners so you can go full throttle sooner and make make up for any cornering speed difference. however imo awd is less fun to drive than rwd. the evo does not give the same experience as the fd. if i had to choose between the evo and the fd to take to the track, id choose the fd everytime rain or shine.

TurboTagTeam

I'v driven an evo8 with coilovers and azenis. They are very easy cars to drive fast. You can late brake like a mother ****** and the car is still flat and controllable through the corners. However, my fd is most definatly faster. You can throw it into the corners more. And it just takes off on the strights. Granted, a fd is a harder car to drive fast IMHO.

1QWIK7

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Yeah, not only that. With todays technology, alot of cars use electronics to compensate for lack of good driving skills or people who have plain out poor driving skills. So basically any normal joe can get in an evo and run pretty good times with basically no track experience. The FD is a true man's sports car. It has raw feel with no aid by electronics to assist in any moment to where it might be difficult for the driver to overcome. You really need to know the car, track and yourself to be able to be somewhat good on the track in the FD.

ehos

Handling IS relative. The FD is a great handling car, better than the EVO/STI on a nice dry pavement.

Make it snow, or really wet, and I wouldn't want to be in the FD at all. Especially when it's colder condensation (forget about ice). The EVO/STi is actually fun to drive in the snow! (Still need good tires of course).

jp

rt turbo

umm, i own both. the fd is great handling, but the evo just has more grip.. plain and simple. ive autocrossed both cars, and my evo times are much better. its just an easier car to drive fast. being honest and bypardesin (sp?) the evo holds the road better.

1QWIK7

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Of course evo will have more grip, its awd. ANd i wasnt talking about autocross, im talking about a road course.

Its already been proven on video that an FD can outdo an evo on the course and both cars were driven by some of the best drivers in japan.

John Magnuson

Yes, on a tight course like an autocross the awd system on the EVO provides a big advantage.

Dezigns

There's no way I'd even attempt to race an Evo with my FD in the wet... you're just asking for trouble! I have enough trouble putting the power down in a straight line let alone corners

Certainly leave my buddies Evo7 for dead around the track - although im not sure if that is just his driving ability and me severely outpowering him

RuffRyder

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Who are you guys kidding. I've driven both and i say by far FD is much mroe fun to drive its by far the best car i've ever been in. Thats why I own my FD and am so proud of it. But in course situations Evo will own the FD. EVo's are insane on tracks..check out this video of stock EVo owning a lambo. Stock evo! http://videos.streetfire.net/hottest...997DC125EC.htm

RuffRyder

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Actually, I think its a beefed up version of an EVO. But i'm sure FD with a few mods liek Intake and straight exhaust would prob still not be able to drive like it.
Also this show is kind of anti-lambo, i would take that lambo over evo any day but you get the point.

BlkS5TII

Lol. If you want to go off of one race to completely judge both cars then look at the results of Super Streets latest time trials. The Cobalt owned both cars! lol.

Not every good driver can drive good 100% of the time. You can't just take one race and call it the final word.

1QWIK7

iTrader: (33)

So tell me how would you judge it then? Like best out of 100 races?

Go watch a couple of best motoring videos. I know i sound like a ricer when i say that but those guys are pure professionals at its best. It shows an FD beating an evo on the track stock for stock. It shows a mildly modded FD beating a mildly modded evo. But it lose by .5 of a second in one race because FD was on wet tires and the evo wasnt.

How many more races do you need to watch?

And about the cobalt, are you talking about the one that was stripped to like zero lbs and was race prepped?? If so, LOL @ that. Im talking about stock vs stock mainly. Its all relative when the cars are modded but base is what we're looking at since its the standpoint for performance obviously.

d1rx7

thats no normal evo you but 400hp in a fd and it will be the same, and that thing cost **** loads, so you spend your extra money you saved on handling mods and the fd will still out handle the evo. i mite be wrong here but thats a 400fq, they only made a limited number of them didnt they? if you but a stock evo8 and fd against each other the fd will win. and thats in the usa were the fd was only avalible till 95, over here i in new zealand if we put the 98+modles up against it they would do even better.