FD Road Racers ONLY: Your Upgrades and Your Rationale
Manny,
Its hard being a sourpuss with Regan around, ask me how i know....
But, he's right.... dump the FMIC, fix yer shitty old bushings, get dual CWR oil coolers (if you haven't already), and we'll see you at VIR.
Its hard being a sourpuss with Regan around, ask me how i know....
But, he's right.... dump the FMIC, fix yer shitty old bushings, get dual CWR oil coolers (if you haven't already), and we'll see you at VIR.
Manny, if you are interested I have one of the best IC/CAI/Cooling setups for sale for a pretty good price. 
Includes Large SMIC, CAI, Ducting, and Radiator Relocation Mounts.

Includes Large SMIC, CAI, Ducting, and Radiator Relocation Mounts.
wow i just read all this...sounds like me when i tried drag racing my FD.......three broken trannies two broken diffs, set of axles, three ppfs, some other stuff too!
i think in short you need to plan to have twice as much time and money as you think you need to race an FD
my FD is now totalled due to an ******* jetta driver so i'm trying to figure what i'm gonna do with $30k in parts from my FD
i think in short you need to plan to have twice as much time and money as you think you need to race an FD

my FD is now totalled due to an ******* jetta driver so i'm trying to figure what i'm gonna do with $30k in parts from my FD
Originally posted by rceron
Well, there you go. Hope this makes you happy.
Now forget this nonsense about taking a hiatus from HPDE events.
Well, there you go. Hope this makes you happy.
Now forget this nonsense about taking a hiatus from HPDE events.
Last edited by SleepR1; Nov 4, 2003 at 05:37 PM.
Originally posted by the_glass_man
Manny, if you are interested I have one of the best IC/CAI/Cooling setups for sale for a pretty good price.
Includes Large SMIC, CAI, Ducting, and Radiator Relocation Mounts.
Manny, if you are interested I have one of the best IC/CAI/Cooling setups for sale for a pretty good price.

Includes Large SMIC, CAI, Ducting, and Radiator Relocation Mounts.
Originally posted by SleepR1
Where do you get the Problend, and what is it chemically? Is it ethylene glycol/water-based?
Where do you get the Problend, and what is it chemically? Is it ethylene glycol/water-based?
Art
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Originally posted by SleepR1
I'm happier. Heat soak is a problem for the precontrol/wastegate solenoid. It seems to malfunction when everything gets hot (boost increases with engine speed). It's that or the Power FC switches to complete nonsequential when the AITs are in the 50-60 C range? Anyhoo, with 7 to 10 hard dyno runs, the car was still making 300 Mustang Dyno hp, so at least I know that the car is capable of that level hp even under extreme heat soak conditions with 15 psi boost from J-spec twins. Peter, if I make it to VIR in Fall 2004, I'm going to rent one of Fritz Flynn's well-sorted FDs
I'm happier. Heat soak is a problem for the precontrol/wastegate solenoid. It seems to malfunction when everything gets hot (boost increases with engine speed). It's that or the Power FC switches to complete nonsequential when the AITs are in the 50-60 C range? Anyhoo, with 7 to 10 hard dyno runs, the car was still making 300 Mustang Dyno hp, so at least I know that the car is capable of that level hp even under extreme heat soak conditions with 15 psi boost from J-spec twins. Peter, if I make it to VIR in Fall 2004, I'm going to rent one of Fritz Flynn's well-sorted FDs
By next fall I'll have atleast 2 well sorted fds
Originally posted by DamonB
Just as you pointed out that a street engine and a race engine are two different systems, you seem to forget that when talking about the race engine in the LeMans car. I am sure that engine saw a level of materials and preperation that has and will never exist for a road going Mazda car. Mazda acheived their goals with THAT powerplant in THAT car. A 13B is different and is only a cousin to the LeMans engines.
Everyone here who has lost apex seals or coolant o-rings on stock motors please raise your hand. Man, did ALL of you guys overheat your car or have improper tuning? There's just too many of you to say that ALL of you screwed up...
Just as you pointed out that a street engine and a race engine are two different systems, you seem to forget that when talking about the race engine in the LeMans car. I am sure that engine saw a level of materials and preperation that has and will never exist for a road going Mazda car. Mazda acheived their goals with THAT powerplant in THAT car. A 13B is different and is only a cousin to the LeMans engines.
Everyone here who has lost apex seals or coolant o-rings on stock motors please raise your hand. Man, did ALL of you guys overheat your car or have improper tuning? There's just too many of you to say that ALL of you screwed up...
I currently seem to also be having some of the problems that were brought up in the thread...
Originally posted by CrispyRX7
And I'll add some things...the oil catch can problem. It goes back to the stock design. the car was not intended to be shod with R-compound tires and generate 1.2...1.5..whatever lateral G's **AND** have a working PCV system. I was at the track last friday and a poor guy with a stock PCV system was having oil spray out of the TB to elbow connection. He removed the elbow and there was oil pooled EVERYWHERE we could see in the intake...and he was on street tires! So we try and eliminate this problem with a catch can. Is it fully developed yet for everyone? Nope. Will it ever be? Who knows.
And I'll add some things...the oil catch can problem. It goes back to the stock design. the car was not intended to be shod with R-compound tires and generate 1.2...1.5..whatever lateral G's **AND** have a working PCV system. I was at the track last friday and a poor guy with a stock PCV system was having oil spray out of the TB to elbow connection. He removed the elbow and there was oil pooled EVERYWHERE we could see in the intake...and he was on street tires! So we try and eliminate this problem with a catch can. Is it fully developed yet for everyone? Nope. Will it ever be? Who knows.
Thinking about my options for replacing the main cat I recalled a conversation I had with Chuck (rotaryextreme) awhile back about an all-metal cat. I'm not exactly sure how it works, but I suppose it would be lighter, last longer, and have a greater flow rate than a traditional high-flow cat, especially with the amount of heat we put out. I remember him saying that it's a new technology and currently in use with high end car manufacturers such as BMW and Mercedes. Some aftermarket companies have also produced some units such as RE Amemiya, but they're prices are a bit exhorbant in the $1k+ range. He said he could make one for me for a lot cheaper because he has a manufacturer of the cores allready sourced. Perhaps if some other people were interested too he'd be more inclined to start up on the project and perhaps give us a gb discount. I think I'll start a thread on it to see how many people are interested, does anyone here think it might be a good idea?
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Originally posted by SleepR1
So does that make 3 well-sorted FDs, Fritz?
So does that make 3 well-sorted FDs, Fritz?
CYM will be a daily driver/back up track car and I'm going to add some nice coilovers and only run 7lbs of boost. Its a strong car so its actually still decent at those levels. You can rent the track model for 750 or the cym for 500. Per day of course
I just had it at Summit Point and my lap times were not significantly slower than my track car. Still have heat issues though I had to shift at 5500 or 6000 for a couple of laps to avoid running hot. Thats with dual oil coolers and a mazda comp radiator. I will throw some water wetter in for my next event and see if that helps although it will most likely be a mute point because the ambient temps will be like pretty low.
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Originally posted by vosko
i better get a free rental or atleast a good deal if i sell fritz my FD
i better get a free rental or atleast a good deal if i sell fritz my FD
Last edited by Fritz Flynn; Nov 9, 2003 at 02:35 PM.
Hey Chronos,
I thought your motor was recently built? There shouldn't be any leaks from a newly built motor? Are you referring to your current motor? How many miles are on that one? What mods? Can you pinpoint the oil leak origins?
I suggest spraying BrakeKleen all over the motor and cleaning all the oil off. Run the motor at idle and look for leaks at that point. If you see no leaks after idling for awhile, run the car hard, park it, then look for leaks.
The places I'd look for leaks after running the car hard (on-boost) are: stock y-pipe coupler, throttlebody-to-intake elbow rubber gasket, and oil filler neck pipe-to-motor o-ring gasket (tricky to seat properly).
FWIW, I had a Bonez hi-flow cat clog after 5 years and 74,000 miles. Symptoms were low boost, 8-0-4, and eventually 4-0-4. Recently replaced with stainless steel midpipe (straight-through, nonresonated); boost is now 12-13-12 with Power FC set to 0.85 kg/cm^2 Pr/Sc 50% base duty
I thought your motor was recently built? There shouldn't be any leaks from a newly built motor? Are you referring to your current motor? How many miles are on that one? What mods? Can you pinpoint the oil leak origins?
I suggest spraying BrakeKleen all over the motor and cleaning all the oil off. Run the motor at idle and look for leaks at that point. If you see no leaks after idling for awhile, run the car hard, park it, then look for leaks.
The places I'd look for leaks after running the car hard (on-boost) are: stock y-pipe coupler, throttlebody-to-intake elbow rubber gasket, and oil filler neck pipe-to-motor o-ring gasket (tricky to seat properly).
FWIW, I had a Bonez hi-flow cat clog after 5 years and 74,000 miles. Symptoms were low boost, 8-0-4, and eventually 4-0-4. Recently replaced with stainless steel midpipe (straight-through, nonresonated); boost is now 12-13-12 with Power FC set to 0.85 kg/cm^2 Pr/Sc 50% base duty
Originally posted by Fritz Flynn
My understanding is the coolant temps are very hot like 250s but it still pulls hard because the actual moving parts are cooler from passing more heat to the coolant. I think the boiling temp on the evans is 370 versus 270 for standard coolant. So you would have to get your car extremely hot to cause any real trouble.
My understanding is the coolant temps are very hot like 250s but it still pulls hard because the actual moving parts are cooler from passing more heat to the coolant. I think the boiling temp on the evans is 370 versus 270 for standard coolant. So you would have to get your car extremely hot to cause any real trouble.
Although, I won't have to worry about heat since my car has been retired to street rod only
CYM will be a daily driver/back up track car and I'm going to add some nice coilovers and only run 7lbs of boost. Its a strong car so its actually still decent at those levels.

You can rent the track model for 750 or the cym for 500. Per day of course
What other mods are on the CYM car?
Last edited by SleepR1; Nov 10, 2003 at 06:08 AM.
I just built a splitter for my car with the idea of improving radiator cooling. It appears to work much better than I expected! Photos and description in this thread:
DamonB's front splitter for cooling
DamonB's front splitter for cooling
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Originally posted by SleepR1
[B]I dunno, Fritz, I've never been sold on the Evans stuff. I'd be interested in trying the Problend stuff, Art clued us into
Although, I won't have to worry about heat since my car has been retired to street rod only
[B] 7 psi only? Is that intentional, is there a problem? I don't have the discipline to run only 7 psi--must do at least stock boost--10 psi so Power FC would be set for 10 psi Pr/Sc
Hmmm...CYM $500 x 2, plus $350 for the VIR event + hotel + food + beer + plus drinks for the "cuties". I guess I'll have to instruct, and catch rides with you, Fritz
What other mods are on the CYM car?
[B]I dunno, Fritz, I've never been sold on the Evans stuff. I'd be interested in trying the Problend stuff, Art clued us into
Although, I won't have to worry about heat since my car has been retired to street rod only
[B] 7 psi only? Is that intentional, is there a problem? I don't have the discipline to run only 7 psi--must do at least stock boost--10 psi so Power FC would be set for 10 psi Pr/Sc
Hmmm...CYM $500 x 2, plus $350 for the VIR event + hotel + food + beer + plus drinks for the "cuties". I guess I'll have to instruct, and catch rides with you, Fritz
What other mods are on the CYM car?
Only mods are: pettit smic, dp, cb, rad, sway, and links. The engine and turbos are really strong and without an ecu its best to keep the boost down a bit anyway. The last time I used it on the track it was 80 out and I had to shift before 6k (now that takes discipline). I need to fab up some ducts for the radiator and clean the oil coolers.
Come down to VIR this spring and let me take a few laps in the rx8 and I'll return the favor in whatever car I have
Originally posted by Chronos
For one, when I park the car it always leaks in about 16 spots all ranging throughout an area of the engine bay. A bunch of oil has also collected in the bottom left (facing the car) of the massive RE Amemiya single filter. If I run the car hard and park it, smoke will come out of the hood and under the car.
For one, when I park the car it always leaks in about 16 spots all ranging throughout an area of the engine bay. A bunch of oil has also collected in the bottom left (facing the car) of the massive RE Amemiya single filter. If I run the car hard and park it, smoke will come out of the hood and under the car.
Originally posted by Fritz Flynn
Yeah yeah I should have just come and picked that puppy up. I'd have a nice single set up right now. Sorry you missed my voice messages. Anyway good luck parting it although I'm quite sure you'll do very well
Yeah yeah I should have just come and picked that puppy up. I'd have a nice single set up right now. Sorry you missed my voice messages. Anyway good luck parting it although I'm quite sure you'll do very well

i haven't actually taken it apart yet but i did get some offers for $15k for it
i'm bored i'll shoot off a PM





