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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 11:52 PM
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Fd affordability

Hey guys whats up. I was looking into getting an FD or an RX8 (currently I have an FC lol.) I've noticed that some guys that own FD's are college guys, or at least that age group.

Why im asking is, im in that same age bracket, and i'm wondering, how do you afford an FD? Loan? or what?
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 11:56 PM
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get a job sir!
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 12:20 AM
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get a job save your money and go single turbo. thats how i survive.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 12:24 AM
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 12:28 AM
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i have a job and i also sell my sperm weekly and give blood monthly. thats how i do it
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 12:40 AM
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a few guys drive them as daily drivers.....if you really want a fd ....buy a daily driver and drive the fd when its nice out.....it will save you money in the long run...
also you dont want to but all the miles on your good car.....
if your going to school ....finish school and worry about what you buy or drive after you get a job

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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 01:00 AM
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I just live my parents. the FD helps me deal.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 01:03 AM
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i have a job and i also sell my sperm weekly and give blood monthly. thats how i do it
Seriously? If so, what do they pay for a jack off session? I was always curious if a person even made decent cash jacking it into a cup.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 01:52 AM
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I have a career. I work a full time 9-5 gig for $32,500/year salary, and I recently picked up an after hours gig for $40/hour and about 30 hours a week.

I'm 20, I haven't had to take out a loan for anything...

If money is a real issue for you and this would be a DD, don't get one. Get an 8.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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Obviously having a job at the earliest age possible helps as well as saving that money and investing from the start.

Started working at 14, bought mine when i was 19
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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Having a car that is known for reliability issues and being young and/or in college do not mix, period. Face the facts, you have a finite amount of money coming in, right? Do you want to spend what little bit (if any) 'disposable' cash on constant car repairs, or would you rather have a nice Honda or Toyota that just runs and runs and runs, only asking for gas and the occasional oil change?
There are only about 12,674 threads about NOT trying to get an FD at a young age or how it didn't work out in the end.
Kudos to the young ones out there that make it happen and don't "suffer" for it, but I think every single one of them will agree it took/takes planning and dedication and isn't for everyone.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Tyblat
Why im asking is, im in that same age bracket, and i'm wondering, how do you afford an FD? Loan? or what?
Ha ha ha ha ha!

hoo boy, now that I can type again...

If you have to ask, don't do it.

Stick with your FC, or get the RX-8.

FD's are aging cars. Even a nice original example
is likely to require a few $1000 in work just to
deal with old turbo's, new hoses, reliability mods.

And then you won't be happy.You'll want to make it
go faster.

Seriously, wait until the $$ is not so much of an issue.

Not too many people here say what they have actually
spent on their cars, but when you look at their pics and
read their list of mods, quite a few cars here are well
are well past the 50k mark for mods+car .

Not that I expect you'll actually listen to me.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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Good luck with a loan. A lot of banks may not be willing to loan money on a 12+ year old car.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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I'd try to avoid a loan and wait until you can just outright pay for it. I took out a short term loan for mine, like really short (3 months) but I was waiting on some other financial things to pan out so I could use that money for the car.

Anyway, how do you think it is going to feel sending the bank 200, 300, 500?! dollars a month for a car that you can barely afford, and then the ******* motor takes a crap on you and you are left wondering where you will find the 5-7k for a new motor, and during that time you are dumping hundreds of dollars a month just to keep that big paper weight in your garage?

Yeah, that would be about as much fun as jacking off a grizzly bear in a phone booth with a handful of sticker bushes.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bajaman
Kudos to the young ones out there that make it happen and don't "suffer" for it, but I think every single one of them will agree it took/takes planning and dedication and isn't for everyone.
The elderly man is right. He may have bought a brand new Model T for his first car, but he is correct about this for FDs. FDs and 99% of our age group just don't mix.

The FD is an expencive, gas hungry car. To put it this way, if I needed to use my FD as a daily driver, I'd have to sell it for something else. Gas, preventative maintnence, repairs, would all be too much for me to handle daily and I'm doing incredibly well for my age. You're in college, probably barely scraping by $10k take home anually, if that. Your savings will be depleted by the time you graduate college.

Originally Posted by jkstill
Not too many people here say what they have actually spent on their cars
most people on here are probably afraid to actually tally the ammount of money they've spent on the car since they've owned it...
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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I've had mine for only a couple of months and I've sunk in just about $4-5k. Granted I knew she'd need a lot of work from the get-go (although there were a few surprises along the way), but basically you're going to have that with any car. Say you find one that's been un-molested, sitting in some old guy's garrage. Ok, low miles, but you'll still need to replace the radiator, AST, and all the lines. Radiator = $300-$400, AST = $130-$150, and I don't even know how much the replacement lines go for. But you see my point? You've already spent another $500 just to make sure it doesn't blow up. What if there hasn't been much maintenance done? Oil change, new filter, new fuel filter, new plugs... it all adds up, and pretty quickly.

However, having said all that, once you get those things done, it can be a great, and even reliable (in stock to mildly modified form). Gas is still an issue though, as I've found that my pedal on the right seems to be abnormally heavy, which causes my gas milage to drop.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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I bought my RX7 from some guy on Ebay...stupid I know but it was in the Dallas area and my dad could at least check it out. I told him if all was good or at least decent to pick it up. I wired him the money and then he went looked at it and paid the guy cash. He complained about a rough ride and then a coolant light going on. I was very unhappy at this point, but assumed that it needed a rebuild despite the advertised "5K on rebuild". Had a wear in the R1 seat as advertised, and very light oxidation, but neglected to mention the entire suspension was shot, so I had it sent directly to Gotham. And then they did a lot of bushing work, I got new tires, and as long as everything was apart they change the wiring harness, did the whole AST, silicone hoses and whatnot. Disgruntled I was ready to sell the car for a Lexus so I stopped the upgrades there. Now that I'm about $6K into it already and there no hope of recouping money, it's no turning back. I won't sell the car to get a Lexus and Toyota truck. I'll just deal with it until I can get those on the side. Now it's more of deciding on if I'll continue college in Kauai or move back to Dallas. It get expensive fast, but thankfully I don't take payments or do credit cards when it involves "fun cars". If I don't have it cash I won't buy it. It's always good to have emergency money set aside. I'm just trying to get the car sorted out before I ship it here. An island with no dyno and no one of rotary experience. I bought my RX7 for my 22nd birthday.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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Not knowing much about the fd before i bought mine, i ended up taking out a loan for one with a rebuilt motor thinking "oh this should be pretty reliable". NOT! its my daily driver and i also do alot of work to it but i made my choice already and can't go back. but i love it still. like bajaman said, a honda or toyota would prolly be best for now untill u can afford to have something that'll break alot
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RiceFx306
It get expensive fast, but thankfully I don't take payments or do credit cards when it involves "fun cars". If I don't have it cash I won't buy it. It's always good to have emergency money set aside.
Solid advice right here! Something I also adhere to. If I don't have the cash to afford it, I'll wait to buy it. I do not and will not go in to debt over a car.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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be prepared to drop a stupid amount of money into it. been working my whole life and bought my first FD this recent august. blew the engine on the way home, had to have it towed, and then when we got back and checked everything out, i decided to do it all at once. BDC rebuild, single kit, the works. after the plane tickets, picking it up, and all the other misc. **** and upgrades there's probably close to 25K in the car. and its not even running right now.

I'm 19 as well, in school, two jobs and donating plasma 3 times a week. If you love it, then its worth it. but do your homework and make sure you ARE dedicated. im pretty sure i had everything that could possibly go wrong with mine happen when i picked it up (short of a fire, thank god), but i didnt give up and kept a smile on my face. once she's up and going it'll all be worth it.

edit: also agree with the cash statements. if you dont have the money, DONT even think of it. FD's are toys, toys are luxury items.

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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by spandy
Seriously? If so, what do they pay for a jack off session? I was always curious if a person even made decent cash jacking it into a cup.
i sort of considered this.. jokingly for a friend.. but he said 'you dont want some stranger ringing your doorbell 25 yrs calling you daddy' lol..

plus i dont think you get much for your sperm.. probably like $20-50? i can't see them giving you more than $100 for it.. however, healthy females can get up to 5k for an egg.. according to my school newspaper classifieds. maybe the process of getting the egg is more risky?


money is why i'm holding out till i graduate to buy an FD or 3.. lol.. i also plan to buy a dd, probably a honda fit or scion xB and keep the FD for a weekend car. no more race/track cars for dd.. too many reliability problems. right now i have an s13 with probably 15-20k in mods into it and every little thing that can go wrong goes wrong.. you have to change completely everything off a 15yr old car.. i barely even drive that b/c im worried about getting pulled over and reffed, thieves, unwanted attention, etc..
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You can donate plasma twice a week, and they pay you anywhere from $20-$40 the first time and then $30-$50 the second time as an incentive for going back. You can go to www.bloodbanker.com to see if there's a site near you.
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Originally Posted by Tyblat
Hey guys whats up. I was looking into getting an FD or an RX8 (currently I have an FC lol.) I've noticed that some guys that own FD's are college guys, or at least that age group.

Why im asking is, im in that same age bracket, and i'm wondering, how do you afford an FD? Loan? or what?
One of the biggest mistakes you can make in life is to compare the spending and estimated income of someone else. There are way too many variables (not the least of which might be their horrible financial shape) to let that guide your choices.

If you don't care about destroying your personal finances for the next 20 years, or you have thousands and thousands of extra dollars every year piling up, don't buy an FD. There are many young adults who have jobs that can support the cost of an FD, but most of these owners IMHO have substantially compromised their long term net worth for a car. I thought I was in pretty good shape, and I'm doing ok, but now further down the road of life I see quite clearly just how pivotal buying the FD was. If I had skipped the FD or waited longer my finances would be drastically better.

Dave

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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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well i am 17 and got my fd when i was sixteen. i saved and worked my *** off to get it. i also sold just about everything i had, dirtbike, 97 jeep grand cherokee, and a bunch of **** on ebay(lol). but i have wanted this car since i first saw it when i was about 10. i say that if you really love something(and when u drive and fd thats what ur riding on, that and hope, that it doesnt break down) it will eventually come to you. so even if u are not able to get one now then hopefully u will later down the road because this car is amazing.
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