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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 02:16 AM
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Fast reacting IAT sensor to replace stock sensor

I did a little searching on here and google, inwhich a thread popped up on the other forum checked it out guess back in 2008 guy had some IAT sensors that out performed the stock IAT, but that guys websites are down. I run PFC any advise on where to get fast reacting IAT sensor?

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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 02:46 AM
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He is still on the forum I believe...may be on the "other" forum. Screen name is something like dudemanownsanrx7. Make sure you pay the extra $5 or whatever for the plug and play attachment. Well worth it!
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 02:48 AM
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Thanks for the info!!
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 02:57 AM
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Wannaspeed spells the IAT and pigtail adapter that makes it plug and play.

Mine so far is running great in the stock location, didn't even relocate it to the elbow.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 02:59 AM
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2 questions

What is the best way to contact him when im ready to purchase

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Why are some people relocating them to the elbow anyways? Better reading/response?
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 03:44 AM
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Even with the FRIAT you could still argue that the stock position is prone to heat soaking more than the elbow. That is the logic behind it per my understanding.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 06:06 AM
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Pretty sure I remember reading about dudemaan running it in the stock location and not having heat soak. I decided to run mine in the same (stock) location and haven't noticed any problems, but then again my UIM and a lot of other stuff is ceramic coated so that might have a lot to do with it.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 06:47 AM
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this is his site: http://wannaspeed.com/index.php?main...roducts_id=180

says it's sold out though. It's an IAT sensor off some Triumph motorcycle and it uses a regular Bosch EV1 electrical connector.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 06:50 AM
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http://compare.ebay.com/like/2305934...=sbar&_lwgsi=y this certainly looks like the same sensor I have.
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Originally Posted by IWINULUZ
Why are some people relocating them to the elbow anyways? Better reading/response?
Originally Posted by Gringo Grande
Even with the FRIAT you could still argue that the stock position is prone to heat soaking more than the elbow. That is the logic behind it per my understanding.
+1, im going to be running mine in the stock location... i spoke to my mechanic about it and makes perfect sense... Even "if" it heat soaks, that means the UIM is head soaking as well. moving the sensor will give you a "cooler'' reading, and we both agreed we prefer to know what the high temp is and what the temp is right before it goes into the engine hope that makes sense...
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 10:34 AM
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I got a +1 from Bubble. Does that mean I have to change my name to a pink hue now?
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by muibubbles
+1, im going to be running mine in the stock location... i spoke to my mechanic about it and makes perfect sense... Even "if" it heat soaks, that means the UIM is head soaking as well. moving the sensor will give you a "cooler'' reading, and we both agreed we prefer to know what the high temp is and what the temp is right before it goes into the engine hope that makes sense...
Correct me if I'm wrong, if the sensor is heat soaked, wouldn't it measure hotter intake temp than it should? And if the temperature is actually cooler than what the sensor reported, wouldn't it cause the car to run lean?
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 11:59 AM
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I have one I am trying to get rid of. PM me if interested...
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 12:45 PM
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Some people move it because if you are injecting water upstream of the stock location your ait's will drop and the correction map will alter fueling. If you put the sensor before the AI nozzle then your tune is unaffected and you are utilizing water solely for knock suppression and combustion chamber cooling.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 10:07 PM
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I got a +1 from Bubble. Does that mean I have to change my name to a pink hue now?
hahah no but ill send you a bubble tech sticker if you want ahahha

Originally Posted by ZE Power MX6
Correct me if I'm wrong, if the sensor is heat soaked, wouldn't it measure hotter intake temp than it should? And if the temperature is actually cooler than what the sensor reported, wouldn't it cause the car to run lean?
Yes and no. it depends how youre looking at it.

Im assuming the heat soak that is heat soaking the sensor is heat soaking the UIM therefore heat soaking both...

It would cause inaccurate readings if it was heat soaking just the sensor but im assuming its not...

Originally Posted by DriftDreamzSS
Some people move it because if you are injecting water upstream of the stock location your ait's will drop and the correction map will alter fueling. If you put the sensor before the AI nozzle then your tune is unaffected and you are utilizing water solely for knock suppression and combustion chamber cooling.
^^ that too. most AI is sprayed as close to the TB so there isnt much room to fit a sensor in front of the AI nozzle either..
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 08:04 PM
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Is there any reason to run the fast reacting IAT sensor on a stock car. Mind is basically stock other than RB duals, HKS dp, K&N drop in, and an AEM water injection kit.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 08:42 PM
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i think the better question would be; what should the criteria be to run one of these units?
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by adamrs80
Is there any reason to run the fast reacting IAT sensor on a stock car. Mind is basically stock other than RB duals, HKS dp, K&N drop in, and an AEM water injection kit.
its just to have more accurate readings.. i wouldnt say its necessary...
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 05:03 PM
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What I have found is when the UIM and sensor becomes hot due to engine radiation and conduction especially idling at a stoplight in Florida (in my case) the fuel map skews to the temperature of the UIM and sensor rather than air temperature. It is also very noticable in the car's idle and tip-in conditions. I have validated this on my Datalogit / laptop.

I would think the criteria for having one would center around aftermarket ECU and specific tuning parameters.
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