Mine turned up today, all the way over to the UK in 7 days. Fantastic looking piece of kit Rob, thanks for sorting things out so smoothly. I'll hopefully get it fitted in the next couple of days.

Steve

 

Got mine this week. Looks great. Well above my expectations, which were pretty high to start. I'll report back after getting it fit on this weekend, although I will only be able to speak on fitment since my car's guts are all over the place for full non-seq convo. Thanks again.

 

So the inboard mounting points would have to be on the seats? I'm not sure what you mean/how to do this, can you put up pictures of your setup? (especially if it is 6pt that would be nice)

 

I'm not sure what you're talking about in the first part, I put an eye-bolt in the outboard location that holds the seatbelt to the chassis but the inboard ones are attached to the seat and are covered by a plate so I'm not sure how I could put an eyebolt in there? I looked at using the seat mounting holes but they seem to require an eyebolt with a thread that not many people carry (I believe its 3/8ths) and I think replacing the rear bolts would block the seat from moving. Also just to clarify the backing plate I need to go into the bar is a 3/8ths hole for 3in harness? Thanks

-Andy

 

On my car, I had 2 holes in the floor pans for mounting the eye bolts...They are covered by little pieces of movable carpet that appears to be rivited to the rest of the carpet.

FWIW, my car came with no seat belts in it and is a 93. I don't think that'd make a difference, though.

 

anyone have pics of the eyebolt mounting points? also i was reading that with the stock seats we shouldn't use a submarine strap?

 

Let me attempt to clarify. The following pictures show the driver's side of the vehicle (those of you in England and Australia should look at the pictures using a mirror ).

Two bolts (for each seat) need to be replaced with standard racing-harness eye-bolts. Eye-bolts are available from numerous places such as Jegs, Summit Racing, Pegasus Auto Racing, etc. One eye-bolt directly replaces the bolt used to secure the stock seat belt to the floor (the seat belt can still remain in place). This becomes the outboard lapbelt mounting point. The second eye-bolt directly replaces one of the inboard seat mounting bolts. This becomes the inboard lapbelt mounting point.

Use of eye-bolts in these locations does not impede seat travel (ie you should still be able to slide the seat all the way back).

Outboard connection point:



Inboard connection point:




A single anti-sub strap (eg: 5-point harness) is not really recommended for use with stock seats as they do not have a central slot to allow for the anti-sub belt to do its job properly (although, some people still use them). A better idea is to use a system with 2 anti-sub straps (eg: 6-point harness). In this case, the anti-sub straps can be connected to the same eye-bolts as the lap belts. To use them, you lay the anti-sub straps across the seat, sit on them, pull them up between your legs and connect them to the central harness connection point.


-Rob

 

Ok, cool thanks for the clarification. But I did have some time today with friends and figured out what you were saying hah. However, are you sure that using a 6-point in this manner is proper?

 

so how much was it?

 

Direct quote from Schroth's installation instructions for their Profi Formula models:

"The indirect routing requires a type of preloading of the anti-submarining straps during a frontal impact. This is achieved by sitting on the anti-submarining straps, routing them rearwards and attaching them in the region near or on the lap belt anchorages. This anti-sub strap design requires sitting on the straps or having a thin seat panel allowing the straps running rearwards right underneath the driver’s buttock."

This seems to be the mounting style for most "formula" style belts. However, you should always check with the manufacturer to ensure that their belts are designed to be installed in this manner. In all circumstances, you should follow the guidelines and directions of the belt manufacturer for the restraint that you choose to purchase.



How much was what? The basic harness bar system was $375



-Rob

 

Hmm, ok. Just because the Sabelt 6pt I purchased has anti-subs that barely make it to those rear anchors. I'll have to mess with it some more and check their site for mounting requirements.

 

Maybe he was asking how much Andy paid for his SABELT 6 point harness?

 

I'm in for one next production run! wish I would of jumped on it sooner

 

If anyone is interested in a bar I have mine for sale. It's black with the upgraded pins. Shoot me a pm if your interested.

 

Finally got around to slapping the harness bar on and had no problems with fitment. While it certainly looks nice, I can't speak to its functionality since my car is still basically apart for non-seq conversion. Looking forward to getting my new seats and harnesses in and takin' it for a spin. Thanks.