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Old 03-26-08, 03:36 PM
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You crack me up

Originally Posted by theorie
it's a joke because you obviously know nothing about rx-7s, you're like 18, just sold your civic, and you're trying to buy a RHD imported rx-7.

we get threads like this every week, and sometimes people post them as jokes. thats why. lol i just googled your name and all that **** came up. hardly stalking. wanted to see if you were a troll or not.
You crack me up! but you are so right.

Listen to US.

First off cars should not be legal in the US for import unless they are 15 years or older. So that is already fishy to me.

Oil low so RPM low - fishy

A civic to a JDM RX7 - fishy - but thats fine if you have just come into ALOT of money. Its tempting but these cars will suck you dry. I just paid over 20K for my 1993 but I don't want problems. Think about it. Why are there cars at 8K and at 28K of the same model and year. Because the 8K car will end up costing 20K once you get it sorted out. An engine will start at 5K and then then then ..... What's even more sad is you are probably not even paying 8K but more like 12K to 15K and stretching your finances to the limit to get this car.

Sorry but I have to say save save your money and yourself and wait till you can afford a proper example. And then save some more money so that you can keep it proper. These are not Honda's (rice).

You probably wont listen anyway and go out and buy it so I guess we'll soon see some desperate post from you looking for good shops and cheap parts + labor to fix this and that. Then a few months down the line another post trying to sell your FD JDM for at least what you paid minus all the money you spent trying to get it sorted out. Then you'll buy another civic. I mean no disrespect but that's the cycle. My neighbor offered me his 1984 Ferrari Mondial at a great 22K price last summer. It was in perfect shape (he onwed it for teh past 15 years) but I knew that a tune up would cost me 4K and a clutch 8K if needed so I decided its not the time for me to own one.

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Originally Posted by enzozenuni
to me its not that its a RHD its just that they are with very very low miles and good condition and better then the other ones that I have seen for sale with the same price.
enzozenuni,

For the most part, they are not legal to import which is the problem. Now people do get them over here sometimes, and some states aren't as particular on registering cars. However you should understand what you are getting into before you end up spending your money on something which *might* get taken from you.

Take the VIN number and see about getting insurance on the car. Some insurance companies use a computerized VIN decoder which will most likely only be able to decode a US VIN. Depending on the company they may or may not insure the car. Also check with getting it registered in your name.
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Old 03-26-08, 03:38 PM
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Please read the big FAQ at the top of this section, think about what you and wallet are getting into, and look through the titles in the 3rd gen section to see what other problems to expect.

A 3rd gen with low miles can have problems just like any other 3rd gen, unless of course it was meticulouly maintained.

There's a good reason these cars aren't suggested to the younger crowd.

Not to mention the legal ramifications of dealing with illegally imported cars.
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Old 03-26-08, 03:40 PM
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I know I'm pretty educated on the rotary engine about how they work problems they give and what to do and what not to do. Its just I'm not to familiar with all their models of the fd. I baby what ever car I own you should of seen my last civic was clean as a whistle had around 90k miles and you can redline it and wouldnt smoke like all the others I changed oil every 2k miles or 1500 I always kept it in check always replaced whatever was needed and didnt wait a month or two to do it like some others do.
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Old 03-26-08, 03:42 PM
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Sure, it's easier to deliver mail or newspapers in a RHD car


Originally Posted by zenofspeed
Can someone explain why anyone would want a RHD car in America? There are hundreds of LHD cars you could be looking to buy.
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Old 03-26-08, 03:42 PM
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Old 03-26-08, 03:48 PM
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I take care of whatever I drive I'm very uptight about maintenance. Do these cars have this many problems that it becomes so expensive to maintain. Besides doing a check up maintnance such as oil and spark plugs every 1500 miles I heard that its best to change the sparks every 400 miles.
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Old 03-26-08, 03:52 PM
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I mean I really love these cars my friend has a fc3s and I do most of his maintanence on his car I've also done some other little things. I know what it takes to be the owner of a rotary car.
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Well if your uptight about matience and have the money, why dont you buy a car that you KNOW the history of and KNOW the car gets oil changes instead of the one your lookin at.
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I most of the history of it just not all I'm still learning I even ordered some books on it and on the rotary engine.
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the efini is the one thats low on oil the bathurst one i am going to go look at it sometime this week
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Educated

Originally Posted by enzozenuni
I know I'm pretty educated on the rotary engine about how they work problems they give and what to do and what not to do. Its just I'm not to familiar with all their models of the fd. I baby what ever car I own you should of seen my last civic was clean as a whistle had around 90k miles and you can redline it and wouldnt smoke like all the others I changed oil every 2k miles or 1500 I always kept it in check always replaced whatever was needed and didnt wait a month or two to do it like some others do.
Hello,

If you were pretty educated on the "FD" rotary then you would be looking, sorry running to a good Rotary only shop to check those cars out. Its a must! You might be educated on the functions of a Rotary but not an FD. Its really a super car and requires super car care. Someone just forgot to price it at 100K when Mazda made the MSRP. These cars need money to operate. Age (18-19) does not make or brake the type of driver but generally its a common factor. You don't see many young kids driving Lambo's, Porsche, Ferrari's, etc... THe RX7 should have been no different. Its these JDM cars or poorly kept American models that are low in price and thus capture poor young people into buying them. Its the same reason that I would not recommend you buy a 1980's Maserati BiTurbo Coupe or convertible. The cost of ownership is way too high.

I heard that there is a very good shop in Florida but don't know the name ask or someone here can post it. You need those proper tests done. Expect to pay between 200$ and 300$ per car.

As for the legality of the cars. Sorry, not my specialty but the US requires a car to be 25 years old period. I et you have some title that has the year changed so it can be registered. Thats always a head ache for registrations, resell, and insurance. Low miles means nothing. Its the condition and history. Add 5k in 3 months to your purchase price for a rebuild and another 4K for new Turbo and prob another $$ for a clutch and tranny. After all its a JDM. Oh maybe you should have a look inside the instrument cluster for the Blue Mazda OE Seal tape to to see if the miles have been tampered with. Its not replaceable and certainly removed or broken if its been opened.

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Originally Posted by enzozenuni
the efini is the one thats low on oil the bathurst one i am going to go look at it sometime this week
Good luck with it. Try to look past all the negative pissing from some of the responses and concentrate on the underlying message they are trying to send:

- The FD is an expensive car to maintain unless you can do it all yourself. Some of the folks here are truly gifted mechanics who can tear apart and put together these cars with their eyes closed. Unless you are one of them, it is very expensive to find a good rotary mechanic to do the work. Also parts are hellishly expensive.

- The FD is a relatively high horsepower, rear-wheel drive, lightweight car. Because of this, even a car that doesn't run optimally (such as mine) is still stinking fast. Most young drivers are not used to rwd cars these days. They also typically don't have the life experience to always make good choices. Poor judgment + speed + unfamiliar handling is a very bad combination.

- It is hard (impossible?) to legally import later model FDs into the states. I'm not sure of all the reasons behind it, but there are a number of good threads on the subject. Illegally imported cars are destroyed if they are found out. You don't want it to be yours.

Finally the FD is a great car. There is a cadre of members here who seem to feel that it is such a great car that only the chosen few (chosen by them of course) should be allowed to own one. Don't let them get to you but also don't completely discount what they have to say just because they come across as arrogant jerks. Even arrogant jerks can speak the truth.
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Originally Posted by dhays
- It is hard (impossible?) to legally import later model FDs into the states. I'm not sure of all the reasons behind it, but there are a number of good threads on the subject. Illegally imported cars are destroyed if they are found out. You don't want it to be yours.
Impossible. The sticking point is there are NO, 0, zilch, not a single one, legal registered importer in the US that will import an RX-7. It costs upwards of hundreds of thousands of dollars to become a legally registered importer, not including the fact that to have them legal for the road, you have to bring 3 over at your expense and have them crash tested(totaled). Even then you run the risk of them not passing.

Aside of that, there's the sticking point that only 92-95s are on the NHSTA legally imported list, meaning that 96-02s are not legal even if you bring some over and crash test them.

The scam is that if you can manage to sneak one past customs, you can sometimes fudge the paperwork and red tape to get one with a STATE title and STATE registration. Mind you, you're then still running the chance of it being crushed, and it's still illegal because what you need(and a lot of people don't know this) is a FEDERAL title.


Also, you'll have to forgive the negative pissing. I realize you don't spend as much time on here as some of us do, but if you did, you'd be sick of seeing 3-4 of these threads popping up weekly.
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Old 03-26-08, 05:10 PM
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Impossible. The sticking point is there are NO, 0, zilch, not a single one, legal registered importer in the US that will import an RX-7. It costs upwards of hundreds of thousands of dollars to become a legally registered importer, not including the fact that to have them legal for the road, you have to bring 3 over at your expense and have them crash tested(totaled). Even then you run the risk of them not passing.

Aside of that, there's the sticking point that only 92-95s are on the NHSTA legally imported list, meaning that 96-02s are not legal even if you bring some over and crash test them.

The scam is that if you can manage to sneak one past customs, you can sometimes fudge the paperwork and red tape to get one with a STATE title and STATE registration. Mind you, you're then still running the chance of it being crushed, and it's still illegal because what you need(and a lot of people don't know this) is a FEDERAL title.


Also, you'll have to forgive the negative pissing. I realize you don't spend as much time on here as some of us do, but if you did, you'd be sick of seeing 3-4 of these threads popping up weekly.
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and so on.

That said, give us your budget, and location and we make a new post in the WTB section and we all would be happy to advise on what you should expect to pay and map out your first 12 to 24 months of expected expenses. If it fit your desire and wallet go for it. An 8K car is not bad if its sold as an 8K car and you know whats coming. A 4K car sold at 13K is a bad investment and unfortunately being sold by a dishonest person.

Now any car less than 25 years is not legal +4

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And, I have seen one (not an RX7) get crushed. I love those ebay ads, its really a 96 but registered as a 89 so that I could import it and legally title it.....eh illegally title it. Oh it was a mexican Beetle, one of the last of the old shapes that I saw get crushed with the false year on the title .

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Old 03-26-08, 05:35 PM
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i was about to say the same thing.


back on topic, i think the later RZ would be something i'd go into debt for, so i could understand the desire for one of the few models that wasn't shipped to USA.

The more I think about it - i'd rather have the RZ upgrades and deletes on my USDM FD.
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Well I'm a big time car enthusiast and for working on em i can do most of the jobs myself unless if its some internal work. My first time working on a rotary was one that my friend owned it was a FC just a 13b injected it was a 88' i never knew anything about rotary back then when i worked on it. *I was only 16 at the time* Someone had worked on it and taken out the radiator, belts, fan, some random tubes, and some other little part. Me not knowing anything about this car he asked me to do it and i told him idk anything about the car if any damages i am not held reliable so he still trusted me cuz hes always been there when i worked on my car and he has seen me do a lot of mechanic work. I put all his stuff back in and his car ran fine even till this day. I love mechanics and I pick up very quickly my father is also a amazing mechanic has been for 34 years. I don't find a problem learning about the car.

You guys shouldn't really be telling me all this crap and how im just another 18 year old retard that thinks im gonna buy a fd. I know i am gonna buy it because i have the money in my hands for it. you guys should just tell me the cons and pros about the two cars i asked. I know they need high maintenance. I treat a car better then i almost treat myself. I still have more to learn and i am somewhat familiar with RWD cars my friend used to let me drift his car at this shutdown store in winterpark that had a pretty big parking lot. I am familiar with it not an expert still need to learn more. I used to do some autocross.
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do you plan on delivering pizza in this car?

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idk man, sports cars and teenagers dont mix. i got my rx7 at 21 and it has been a financial disaster ever since. it takes big money to make this thing go. if it is going to be your daily driver, forget it! keep the civic and have the FD as your weekend car. that is why alot of us suggest and imply that. with being 18, you wont be able to afford an FD and a daily driver. me, my honda does all the miles...

we are only doing this because we are looking out for you and for the sake of our community. we see it all the time where a young financially disadvantaged man buys an FD, blows it up, comes to RX7CLUB crying, realizes he is screwed and sells the car for chump change to someone that will part it out or fix it.

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Old 03-26-08, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by enzozenuni
idled kind of low it was around 400 and they told me its because the oil hasn't been changed.

I never tell anyone to stay away from FDs but if you believe this then an FD is not the car for you. Good luck with whatever choice you make.
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I never tell anyone to stay away from FDs but if you believe this then an FD is not the car for you. Good luck with whatever choice you make.
+1 to that. LOL

Originally Posted by pnoy1duh
A 3rd gen with low miles can have problems just like any other 3rd gen, unless of course it was meticulouly maintained.
very true. i bought my current FD for $17,500 with 29,500 original miles and the car looked like it was in perfect shape! within 1500 miles it needed the turbos rebuilt, new clutch, and shortly after the motor went and needed a rebuild.



@ the OP: look dude. every post you write makes you look even more ignorant about FD's and rotarys. we get posts like this EVERY WEEK.

unless you have $20,000+ to spend, DON'T GET AN FD.

and no matter what the tell you, a RHD fd is not going to be street legal.

also, just because you've change the oil or air filter on a car, it doesn't mean you know how to work on cars, nevertheless a rotary. LOL

go back to the honduh forums
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