3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

DIY Power window maintenance!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-29-10, 04:38 PM
  #26  
10-8-10

iTrader: (7)
 
adamrs80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 855
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by t-von
Actually your right. The silicon in the run channel is really what loosten things up and is something that should really be done once a year. Now as far as cleaning the regulator, it's still beneficial due to it's age. Oh yea how long did it take you?
Well the cleaning, greasing and siliconing only took about 30 minutes. The whole process including getting the window out and back in took an hour. I already had the panel off the re-seal the metal seams between side impact beams and outer skin. That made my doors shut nice and solid sounding.
Old 07-13-10, 01:15 PM
  #27  
Full Member

 
DOHC Vobra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Simi Valley, CA
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Thank You!

Just wanted to say thanks for writing up this post and for all of the great pictures. My passenger side window was rolling down quickly, but would almost stall when rolling it back up. Using your write-up, I was able to clean everything and re-lube and it works just like new!!!

Again, thank you for taking the time to do such a great write-up!

Justin
Old 07-13-10, 01:19 PM
  #28  
Full Member

 
DOHC Vobra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Simi Valley, CA
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Thank You!

<double post>
Old 07-13-10, 02:37 PM
  #29  
Rotor Head Extreme

Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
t-von's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Midland Texas
Posts: 6,719
Likes: 0
Received 26 Likes on 17 Posts
Originally Posted by DOHC Vobra
Just wanted to say thanks for writing up this post and for all of the great pictures. My passenger side window was rolling down quickly, but would almost stall when rolling it back up. Using your write-up, I was able to clean everything and re-lube and it works just like new!!!

Again, thank you for taking the time to do such a great write-up!

Justin



Your very welcome!
Old 07-13-10, 02:39 PM
  #30  
AponOUT!?

iTrader: (31)
 
theorie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Sarasota, FL
Posts: 3,521
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 9 Posts
i just pulled my door panels last night to ship out, so i'll have to do this to my driver's side window...it never goes up unless i help it by pulling up as i push the button.
Old 07-13-10, 06:23 PM
  #31  
Rotor Head Extreme

Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
t-von's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Midland Texas
Posts: 6,719
Likes: 0
Received 26 Likes on 17 Posts
Originally Posted by theorie
i just pulled my door panels last night to ship out, so i'll have to do this to my driver's side window...it never goes up unless i help it by pulling up as i push the button.


What are you having done to your panels?
Old 07-13-10, 08:25 PM
  #32  
AponOUT!?

iTrader: (31)
 
theorie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Sarasota, FL
Posts: 3,521
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 9 Posts
Originally Posted by t-von
What are you having done to your panels?
check out the 2nd line of my sig.
Old 07-18-10, 12:07 AM
  #33  
Senior Member

 
wthx100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Vancouver BC
Posts: 365
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
I've done all this and the window works MUCH better however on the last 10 percent travel before it reaches bottom it still sometimes gets stuck and i have to push down and up a bunch of times before it will come up... any idea what might be at fault?
Old 07-18-10, 12:12 PM
  #34  
10-8-10

iTrader: (7)
 
adamrs80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 855
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
If the window is not binding than there may be a problem with your motor.

Take the entire motor & track assembly out and get a 12v power source and run it up and down. Maybe it will still get stuck even without having to move the glass. If your cleaned and lubed the tracks and the window is not binding than I would take a look at replacing the motor. Ray Crowe told me you can buy just the motor for a 94 and swap the gear on it to install in the 93 assembly. Otherwise you have to buy the entire 93 setup which is over $300 I believe.
Old 07-18-10, 06:19 PM
  #35  
Rotary Enthusiast

iTrader: (7)
 
Mdessouki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Va
Posts: 1,212
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
I wouldn't use silicone lube. I did and it collect dirt over time. I got a lube from a place that installs windows. It was a sprayable graphite lube, or atleaset thats what he said. Didn't bother to look at the composition. Using that stuff lasted over a year before it needed a touch up vs a month or so with the WD-40.
Old 07-19-10, 07:47 AM
  #36  
10-8-10

iTrader: (7)
 
adamrs80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 855
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
WD-40 and silicone spray are not the same thing. I would not put WD-40 on the rubber tracks.
Old 07-20-10, 07:36 PM
  #37  
Senior Member

 
wthx100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Vancouver BC
Posts: 365
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
I've bench tested it and no problems with it all the way lowered. Possibly the added weight of gravity? I have a 94 so i'm in luck there but it's just one of those weird lil things that drives you nuts... I personally dont feel any binding but then again when the glass is that low it's not like i can grab onto it and pull/push.
Originally Posted by adamrs80
If the window is not binding than there may be a problem with your motor.

Take the entire motor & track assembly out and get a 12v power source and run it up and down. Maybe it will still get stuck even without having to move the glass. If your cleaned and lubed the tracks and the window is not binding than I would take a look at replacing the motor. Ray Crowe told me you can buy just the motor for a 94 and swap the gear on it to install in the 93 assembly. Otherwise you have to buy the entire 93 setup which is over $300 I believe.
Old 07-21-10, 12:25 AM
  #38  
Rotor Head Extreme

Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
t-von's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Midland Texas
Posts: 6,719
Likes: 0
Received 26 Likes on 17 Posts
Originally Posted by wtfx100
I've bench tested it and no problems with it all the way lowered. Possibly the added weight of gravity? I have a 94 so i'm in luck there but it's just one of those weird lil things that drives you nuts... I personally dont feel any binding but then again when the glass is that low it's not like i can grab onto it and pull/push.


Are you sure the run channel is perfectly even? Pull it out and inspect it. You can also place the window in the track (without the regulator) and use your own hands to slide it up and down to check for resistance.
Old 11-13-10, 04:18 PM
  #39  
Full Member

iTrader: (12)
 
buish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: CA
Posts: 107
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
just did this. window seems to be going up faster when lubing the rubber run channels than the regulator track.
Old 11-14-10, 09:17 PM
  #40  
Rotor Head Extreme

Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
t-von's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Midland Texas
Posts: 6,719
Likes: 0
Received 26 Likes on 17 Posts
Originally Posted by buish
just did this. window seems to be going up faster when lubing the rubber run channels than the regulator track.

Lubing the run channel makes the biggest difference. But like I said earlier, the regulator itself still needs the re-luding maintenance as the 17yr old lube is all but gone and filled with dirt.
Old 08-21-11, 08:11 PM
  #41  
needs more track time

iTrader: (16)
 
gracer7-rx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Bay Area CA
Posts: 9,184
Received 507 Likes on 349 Posts
Well, it took me a little over a year but I finally got around to doing this today. Definitely helped the window go up normally. Small things make the car feel newer again.

Also installed some Second Skin (dynamat type stuff - see Interior/Exterior forum) inside the door while I was there.
Old 08-21-11, 08:18 PM
  #42  
Rotor Head Extreme

Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
t-von's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Midland Texas
Posts: 6,719
Likes: 0
Received 26 Likes on 17 Posts
Originally Posted by gracer7-rx7
Small things make the car feel newer again.



Because it sure as hell keeps getting older. LOL!
Old 08-21-11, 08:48 PM
  #43  
Full Member
iTrader: (18)
 
Tuesday's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Metairie, LA
Posts: 209
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by gracer7-rx7
Well, it took me a little over a year but I finally got around to doing this today. Definitely helped the window go up normally. Small things make the car feel newer again.

Also installed some Second Skin (dynamat type stuff - see Interior/Exterior forum) inside the door while I was there.
Did you use their spray gun with it or just paint it on? I'm saving for some Lizard Skin ceramic coating and sound dampening. Just wondering if I should spend the extra $80 and get the gun with it.
Old 12-12-11, 07:21 PM
  #44  
Rexxy

iTrader: (40)
 
Jose A.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Glendale, AZ
Posts: 1,247
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by t-von

Now that the regulator is good to go, lets use the silicon lube to lube up the run channels.
If i dont want to remove everything and just apply the lube to the channels because i may not be able to put the window,motor etc back in

Would that help/work somewhat?
Old 12-19-11, 05:51 AM
  #45  
half ass 2 or whole ass 1

iTrader: (114)
 
cr-rex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: okinawa to tampa
Posts: 3,425
Received 480 Likes on 350 Posts
great write-up. my passenger side window is almost at a standstill sometimes...
Old 02-13-12, 12:26 PM
  #46  
Junior Member
 
jamesbaird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Florida
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Good writeup, doing this this weekend to my 85, slightly different process but same concept. Needs adjustment on passenger side (sometimes the window falls in a bit off track and requires me pushing it on track with my thumb)

Hope this fixes it.
Old 06-30-12, 02:38 AM
  #47  
Full Member

 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: San Diego
Posts: 65
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
fyi on my 93 touring there's 2 extra screws to pull the passenger door off. to get to one you have to pull the power window switch off (just use a flathead screwdriver to pry it up), then you can barely see the screw if you look inside. the second is below the handle behind a small plastic cover that you pop off, again with a flathead screwdriver
Old 12-09-14, 01:22 AM
  #48  
Junior Member

iTrader: (3)
 
So_Seven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Canada, BC
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Friendly bump from the dead...

Now, from what I can gather, "bumping" old threads is not condoned, but having some form of input is okay. I also felt that since 7club is a gathering of rx-7 lovers and since our cars are getting rarer (and as such less owners), it is important to stay involved.

Anyway, so my contribution! I just tried this lil' trick today and it took me approximately 4 hours (I'm an extreme beginner), but this proves it can be done by anyone. I also didn't have silicone grease on hand, so I used WD-40 (I know, I'm crazy), between the window rubber seals and believe it or not, that actually helped! As for the grease to lube up the motor wires and track, Shinetsu grease which is an OEM Honda product works wonders! S2000 guys use it between the crevices on their hardtops. Also, remember to wipe off the original grease before applying your new compound, since it seemed that over time the grease started to solidify and stuck to the motor wires. When applying, I suggest use it liberally, BUT make sure that it's applied evenly so that it doesn't clump together. When the OP mentions applying it to the bundle of wires, just rub some onto them, move motor up and down, then repeat. That's about it and have fun with 7s guys!
Old 12-10-14, 07:00 PM
  #49  
Rx7 Wagon

iTrader: (16)
 
Narfle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: California
Posts: 6,988
Received 875 Likes on 548 Posts
Nothing wrong with bumping a thread this good.
Old 12-14-14, 09:29 PM
  #50  
Rotor Head Extreme

Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
t-von's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Midland Texas
Posts: 6,719
Likes: 0
Received 26 Likes on 17 Posts
Hmm I guess I should have posted an update. This is how my windows perform 4 years later.

T-von NA 20b old starter:


Not bad for 21 year old regulators. Btw my 94 fd was built in Sept 93.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:34 PM.