Dashboard Re-covering/Reupholstering
06-24-20, 06:47 PM
#26
Just as kind of a thing, most upholstery videos I've seen use a pretty thick glue instead of spray adhesive. Personally in projects, I never use spray adhesive unless it's just for a quick, temporary or one time use item. Like attaching templates to a piece of work or something like that.
This dude had the most amazing video on reupholstery I've found. No sound though :p
EDIT: Looks like it might be contact cement instead of glue... Not sure!
This dude had the most amazing video on reupholstery I've found. No sound though :p
EDIT: Looks like it might be contact cement instead of glue... Not sure!
Last edited by StaticX27; 06-24-20 at 06:54 PM.
06-24-20, 08:15 PM
#27
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Just as kind of a thing, most upholstery videos I've seen use a pretty thick glue instead of spray adhesive. Personally in projects, I never use spray adhesive unless it's just for a quick, temporary or one time use item. Like attaching templates to a piece of work or something like that.
This dude had the most amazing video on reupholstery I've found. No sound though :p
EDIT: Looks like it might be contact cement instead of glue... Not sure!
https://youtu.be/IaSm3zoWrAo
This dude had the most amazing video on reupholstery I've found. No sound though :p
EDIT: Looks like it might be contact cement instead of glue... Not sure!
https://youtu.be/IaSm3zoWrAo
Lesson learned! There's always a next time.
Definitely wasn't expecting a professional grade result my first go at it.
06-25-20, 12:18 AM
#28
The spray you linked from Amazon only seems to be rated up to ~160F from what I can tell.
That may seem high, but I am not sure what temperature a black dash experiences baking in the summer sun. I know down here 160F wouldn't cut it at all for anything inside the cabin regardless if its a spray or brush application product. 3M should have a higher temperature spray that won't fall apart in the heat like this.
That may seem high, but I am not sure what temperature a black dash experiences baking in the summer sun. I know down here 160F wouldn't cut it at all for anything inside the cabin regardless if its a spray or brush application product. 3M should have a higher temperature spray that won't fall apart in the heat like this.
06-25-20, 04:00 PM
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The spray you linked from Amazon only seems to be rated up to ~160F from what I can tell.
That may seem high, but I am not sure what temperature a black dash experiences baking in the summer sun. I know down here 160F wouldn't cut it at all for anything inside the cabin regardless if its a spray or brush application product. 3M should have a higher temperature spray that won't fall apart in the heat like this.
That may seem high, but I am not sure what temperature a black dash experiences baking in the summer sun. I know down here 160F wouldn't cut it at all for anything inside the cabin regardless if its a spray or brush application product. 3M should have a higher temperature spray that won't fall apart in the heat like this.
Can't imagine this would be any good for headliner either if its failure point is 160F. Definitely have seen cars with interior air temps of 160 in the summer.
06-25-20, 04:17 PM
#30
"This adhesive has a Service Temperature range of -30 - 160F. For higher temperatures (up to 200F) use PN08090 3M Super Trim Adhesive."
I've always been able to find the temperature specs for their other spray glues online, but for whatever reason they don't ever seem to list this one anywhere clearly.
06-25-20, 04:35 PM
#31
Here is the 3M spec sheet for the 3M90 spray product (a different product than the headliner adhesive you purchased, I don't think this exists for their headliner product publicly):https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/...low-voc-25.pdf
The sheet indicates 200F, but some suppliers selling it seem to indicate up to 250F. I used this in some interior spots on my car and so far it has held up for the last year, but I also have some good heat/uv blocking tint on all my windows which might be helping out for when its parked outside for short stints. They may have another product with a higher rating.
Best thing to do is probably call up grainger or some other supplier and ask them about stuff like this before you buy next time. 3M isn't super transparent about it, but the professional supply places generally have all the specs and know their stuff.
And for the record, I also made this mistake before on a different car and its extremely frustrating.
The only thing I can think of is that the headliner doesn't generally get direct sunlight, so in most climates it might work for that. On the other hand, its against the roof which gets pretty damn hot so idk. Perhaps newer cars have enough insulation behind the headliner that it manages to cling on.
The sheet indicates 200F, but some suppliers selling it seem to indicate up to 250F. I used this in some interior spots on my car and so far it has held up for the last year, but I also have some good heat/uv blocking tint on all my windows which might be helping out for when its parked outside for short stints. They may have another product with a higher rating.
Best thing to do is probably call up grainger or some other supplier and ask them about stuff like this before you buy next time. 3M isn't super transparent about it, but the professional supply places generally have all the specs and know their stuff.
And for the record, I also made this mistake before on a different car and its extremely frustrating.
The only thing I can think of is that the headliner doesn't generally get direct sunlight, so in most climates it might work for that. On the other hand, its against the roof which gets pretty damn hot so idk. Perhaps newer cars have enough insulation behind the headliner that it manages to cling on.
06-25-20, 05:00 PM
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Here is the 3M spec sheet for the 3M90 spray product (a different product than the headliner adhesive you purchased, I don't think this exists for their headliner product publicly):https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/...low-voc-25.pdf
The sheet indicates 200F, but some suppliers selling it seem to indicate up to 250F. I used this in some interior spots on my car and so far it has held up for the last year, but I also have some good heat/uv blocking tint on all my windows which might be helping out for when its parked outside for short stints. They may have another product with a higher rating.
Best thing to do is probably call up grainger or some other supplier and ask them about stuff like this before you buy next time. 3M isn't super transparent about it, but the professional supply places generally have all the specs and know their stuff.
And for the record, I also made this mistake before on a different car and its extremely frustrating.
The only thing I can think of is that the headliner doesn't generally get direct sunlight, so in most climates it might work for that. On the other hand, its against the roof which gets pretty damn hot so idk. Perhaps newer cars have enough insulation behind the headliner that it manages to cling on.
The sheet indicates 200F, but some suppliers selling it seem to indicate up to 250F. I used this in some interior spots on my car and so far it has held up for the last year, but I also have some good heat/uv blocking tint on all my windows which might be helping out for when its parked outside for short stints. They may have another product with a higher rating.
Best thing to do is probably call up grainger or some other supplier and ask them about stuff like this before you buy next time. 3M isn't super transparent about it, but the professional supply places generally have all the specs and know their stuff.
And for the record, I also made this mistake before on a different car and its extremely frustrating.
The only thing I can think of is that the headliner doesn't generally get direct sunlight, so in most climates it might work for that. On the other hand, its against the roof which gets pretty damn hot so idk. Perhaps newer cars have enough insulation behind the headliner that it manages to cling on.
If anything it'll make the eventual removal much easier which was most of the reason I didn't want to redo it right away cause at room temp the adhesive was very strong and would've made it a huge headache to remove the foam.
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