D.O.T street legal A.B.S delete brake lines
04-04-12, 03:22 PM
#27
Incoming flood of ABS units and wrecked FDs!
Let's face it, if your ABS unit isn't working you might want to do it...or if you don't really give a crap...but I guarantee some kid who drives worse than I do is going to total their FD because they doesn't have ABS.
Excellent write up by the way. I find it highly amusing timing that this was posted like a day after I posted that I was speccing out my own kit because there were concerns over aluminum fittings in one of the commercial kits produced raised by my supplier.
Let's face it, if your ABS unit isn't working you might want to do it...or if you don't really give a crap...but I guarantee some kid who drives worse than I do is going to total their FD because they doesn't have ABS.
Excellent write up by the way. I find it highly amusing timing that this was posted like a day after I posted that I was speccing out my own kit because there were concerns over aluminum fittings in one of the commercial kits produced raised by my supplier.
04-04-12, 05:08 PM
#28
yep no aluminum fitting here, only part that aluminum is the proportioning valve, i have being working on this write up for over a month maybe longer i just didn't had the time to do the install.
But just in case I didn't even had a clue that you also were looking on the ABS delete or brake lines, but im sure since your speccing out your own kit that you know you cant just come up with all this info that i posted here FREE OF CHARGE for all the forum member in one day.
Funny thing is that now everyone wants to be in brake line, or ABS delete business.
Maybe i should start a group buy!
But just in case I didn't even had a clue that you also were looking on the ABS delete or brake lines, but im sure since your speccing out your own kit that you know you cant just come up with all this info that i posted here FREE OF CHARGE for all the forum member in one day.
Funny thing is that now everyone wants to be in brake line, or ABS delete business.
Maybe i should start a group buy!
Last edited by BLACK MAMBA; 04-04-12 at 05:19 PM.
04-04-12, 05:42 PM
#29
But just in case I didn't even had a clue that you also were looking on the ABS delete or brake lines, but im sure since your speccing out your own kit that you know you cant just come up with all this info that i posted here FREE OF CHARGE for all the forum member in one day.
I certainly appreciate that it was you who posted this information instead of me however. =)
04-04-12, 06:05 PM
#30
Actually it took one phone call for and they did the work! Haha. Kinda like some of the products I'm having machined. Clients I've taken care of for years in turn are keeping my development costs minimal. =)
I certainly appreciate that it was you who posted this information instead of me however. =)
I certainly appreciate that it was you who posted this information instead of me however. =)
But at the end im very happy with my abs delete kit and feel pretty confident on the quality of it, and just like the other kit floating around they were both inspired by the same person in this forum jm93rx7.
04-04-12, 06:23 PM
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" Let's face it, if your ABS unit isn't working you might want to do it...or if you don't really give a crap...but I guarantee some kid who drives worse than I do is going to total their FD because they doesn't have ABS."
Are you saying if you delete the ABS unit the car will not stop???
Are you saying if you delete the ABS unit the car will not stop???
04-04-12, 08:00 PM
#35
Some stainless steel lines on the market are labeled as "OFF ROAD" use only. This is done to remove any liability from the company selling the lines.
Lines that are D.O.T certified have to pass certain test and criteria's. In order to do that, a company must invest in certain equipment and follow all D.O.T testing procedures.
L8R
Lines that are D.O.T certified have to pass certain test and criteria's. In order to do that, a company must invest in certain equipment and follow all D.O.T testing procedures.
L8R
04-04-12, 10:54 PM
#37
Are you saying if you delete the ABS unit the car will not stop???
There is a conversation in the Race Tech section about this IIRC where Brent Dalton...who tracks an FD more than 99% of the forum...weighs in on his belief that even on the track the ABS should be kept.
Hope that clarifies my statement. =)
04-04-12, 11:45 PM
#38
My current truck was the first vehicle I have ever driven with ABS. Before then, its called threshold braking and learning how to drive instead of leaning on a crutch.
If you wreck because of a lack of ABS, you were driving too fast for conditions (traction, driver ability, vehicle capabilities) to begin with.
ON TOPIC:
This kit was very well thought out and researched. Great job and an AWESOME addition to the community! This will help all of the do-it-yourselfers and even the ones that just want to buy a kit from you. Either way, its win-win.
Thank you for your contribution.
If you wreck because of a lack of ABS, you were driving too fast for conditions (traction, driver ability, vehicle capabilities) to begin with.
ON TOPIC:
This kit was very well thought out and researched. Great job and an AWESOME addition to the community! This will help all of the do-it-yourselfers and even the ones that just want to buy a kit from you. Either way, its win-win.
Thank you for your contribution.
09-25-12, 08:06 PM
#41
Nice thread. Kinda complicated for some and expensive. What i do is pick up a 2nd gen non abs proportioning valve some flare nuts and 20ft of 5/16 brake line preferably stainless as it does not expand when hot as bad as aluminum. Go buy a brake tube bender or brake tube bender sleeves ( they look like springs ) And a GOOD flaring and cutting tool. Then your all set to start making new lines after ripping out the abs pump and lines. Oh and dont forget to jump the wire to turn the light off the dash when your finished
09-26-12, 12:28 AM
#44
Great write up.... I will be referring back to this in the future
^^^it can be a great spot to put the battery, without having it in the trunk, in a giant plastic, or metal case, when running on the track (up here in CDN at my local tracks, it needs to be I that case, no matter what type of battery it is, so ABS is gonna get tossed like a salad.
J.
^^^it can be a great spot to put the battery, without having it in the trunk, in a giant plastic, or metal case, when running on the track (up here in CDN at my local tracks, it needs to be I that case, no matter what type of battery it is, so ABS is gonna get tossed like a salad.
J.
09-28-12, 12:27 PM
#46
Awesome write-up, thanks for posting!
Any comment on how the pedal feel is with all these braided hoses in the system versus factory hard lines?
Seriously considering ditching my ABS (I pull the fuse for the track anyway) because it's antiquated and useless and does NOT stop an FD quickly enough in a spin vs just locking up the brakes, plus bleeding the system if air gets into the ABS pump is dicey. I want to know I'm not going to surrender any pedal feel by giving up the factory hardlines.
Thanks!
Any comment on how the pedal feel is with all these braided hoses in the system versus factory hard lines?
Seriously considering ditching my ABS (I pull the fuse for the track anyway) because it's antiquated and useless and does NOT stop an FD quickly enough in a spin vs just locking up the brakes, plus bleeding the system if air gets into the ABS pump is dicey. I want to know I'm not going to surrender any pedal feel by giving up the factory hardlines.
Thanks!
