rotaryextreme

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Luigi:

I made the HMIC with the koyo 2" radiator so yes, the HMIC will fit with larger radiator without any modification done to it.

The knight sports one is call a V Mount and I am almost done with my v-mount. Here are some photos.





On the V Mount, I need to finish making the side shields so all the air will go to both the intercooler and the radiator. The V mount also works with a cold air box. I am making it as universal as possible as well.

Chuck Huang

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rotaryextreme

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Yes, the HMIC will fit any strut bar because as you can see, my pipes are not even close to where the strut bar is. The only question lies in the hood you are using. If you use the Scoot replica hood, you can only use the stock R1/R2 strut bar or you will have to cut the center duct where the bar hits. If you are using the stock hood, knight sports hood or mazdaspeed hood, you shouldn't have any problems with the strut bars.

Chuck Huang

jdhuegel1

Emailed you.

wptrx7

i don't understand, why does cost on the kit come out to 2800? how much is the radiator?

luigi
not flaming just need help to understand how cost came about in this kit, and i do understand you have to make a porfit.

wptrx7

ok i just read the web page and in all honesty i still don't see why it is priced that way. again i just wanted you to add more info to inform us. and i personally think at that price the greedy elbow should be included in your v mount ic. and please post pics of this intake for 450.

luigi
again i just want to be educated before considering purchase.

YayeR

2800... hrmmmm.. what does this include?

TurboInside

we get home-made end tanks, pipes on a Spearco core and a Koyo rad for only 28 hundred dollars?????

Oh, I see now. It comes installed in my car and they throw in a Midget to blow me while I drive

How much is the original knight Sports one that we know works?

rotaryextreme

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Because the hidden cost has to be spreaded among all the units I am going to sell. I know it's not cheap but try to make one yourself or find a fabricator to do one for you and see how much it costs. If it's easy and cheap to make, maybe some other US vendor might have done it already but none so far.

It's not just the radiator, it comes with all the brackets, radiator hoses, and a duct for both the radiator and the interooler and the intercooler. $2800 is an estimated price since it's not complete yet. The final cost might be cheaper but I can't give you a defnite price at this time. I don't plan to sell just the radiator by itself because it will not work that way.

Chuck Huang

rotaryextreme

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We will see about the final price. Intake is not finished yet. Once it's done, pictures will be posted.

Chuck Huang

rotaryextreme

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The V-Mount will come with the following parts:

1. intercooler
2. radiator
3. V mount air duct
4. radiator hoses
5. brackets
6. silicone connector and clamps.

Chuck Huang

YayeR

k but its the horizontal mount that will work w/ the vented hoods, not the V-mount right?

rotaryextreme

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The Knight Sports V-Mount is $3150 and you get:

1. Smaller Spearco core with pipe welded on with home made end tanks and intercooler pipes, silicone hose joints, clamps.
2. 2" radiator made by a US company called Ron Davis, radiator hoses, and clamps.

It does not come with any kind of air duct so the air will escape around the radiator and intercooler and it will not be as efficient.

You don't know Knight Sports really likes to use US made prodcuts? And how do "we" know it works if none of "us" has it? Do you have one or anyone you know has the Knight Sports V-Moun and they can comment on it?

You can pay $3150 for a US made product from a Japanese company if you really like the name Knight Sports. No one is telling you not to get it. No one is telling or forcing you to pay $2800 for my V-mount, either. If you think the price is too much, simply don't buy it. There is no need to make your smart comments about it and obviously, you don't know much about Knight Sports products.

If you think $2800 is too much, why don't you spend the time and effort to make such a product and see how much it costs? How much do you think is a fair price? I will give you the same amount of money and you make it for me. How is that?

Chuck Huang

rotaryextreme

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The V-Mount works with the vented hood. As you can see, the intercooler part itself on the V-Mount is the same as on the HMIC but for the V-Mount, the radiator is reposistioned to form a "V" so the air from the nose can feed to both the radiator and intercooler without one blocking the other.

Since the intercooler part itself is the same as on the HMIC, you can get the HMIC first and then get the radiator part of the V-Mount later if you don't have enough budget. I will only sell the radiator portion of the V-mount by itself if you already have the HMIC. The radiator will not work with any other kinds of intercooler setup.

Chuck Huang

wptrx7

i apologize chuck if i may have caused you to be upset. i did not mean for anyone to respond oin the manner that they did, i jus twanted a little more info on what the set up would consist of. thank you for your reply and i do understand that it is not complete and must be for an accurate price. and i obviously understand that you have to make a profit and i know that "hidden" cost would be your fee for coming up with a cheaper solution to the knightsport version. to add to that an uprgrade and improved version like your headlight kit (which i tried to purchase this afternoon till i found out my car was broken into again).

again thanx, luigi

rotaryextreme

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Luigi:

I am not upset toward you at all. I am here to provide any additional info that you might need regarding a potential purchase.

I am not even upset toward Turboinside, because obviously, he does not really know too much about anything except making some smart-*** comments. His lack of knowledge toward this subject only makes himself look bad, not me. It's just funny that some people can comment on something they don't have any experience with and in the case with Turboinside, not even how much it costs and what it's consisted of.

All my products are considered as custom parts. And custom parts cost more money because they are not mass-produced. If Greddy, Apex, or HKS decides to come out with a V-Mount, it might be cheaper because they probably can sell about 1000 kits world-wide and the hidden cost (Jig set up, mandrel bend piping set up, R&D) can be spreaded among all those units. But for me, I can proabably sell 10 units a year or less.

Seriously, the reason I made a V-mount is not to sell a lot of them and I don't care if I can sell a lot of them. I just want to show people that my team is capable of making stuff like that.

Anyways, I just sent the intercooler and radiator to get poslished so I can take more professional photos. The ones on the website is really not the best representation of the product. More photos coming.

Chuck Huang

suganuma

oh ya?

that sounds pretty cool.....

Mr. Stock

I don't understand why anyone would ask "explain to me why it costs $2800?"

Chuck has developed the product and he should price it accordingly taking into account the costs of development and profit.

By asking "why", one really is asking for the profit margin which really is none of the questioner's business.

If you think that the product is overpriced then don't buy it. If noone buys, then the price should come down or disappear altogether.

Ed

PS personally, I think it's a overpriced and not many people are going to buy it.

israel

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a couple of pages ago in this thread, people were mentioning mid-engine cars with flow through hoods like F50's, NSX's, etc, but the Shelby Series 1's have a big vented hood to flow right through and it's a front engine car. it's a 4.6l V8 no less. just a thought. i'm not sure how they fit it in. it's hard to find good engine shots of $250k cars.

PS personally, the new shelbys are overpriced and not many people are going to buy them

rotaryextreme

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If I can make a couple of the V-mount's at a time, I can cut down the cost by a lot because the set up time is the same for making 1 or making 10. Let's see if we can get a group buy going on this.

Rotary Extreme V-mount combo group buy prices:

3-5: $2500

6-8: $2400

9+: $2300

If you are buying the v-mount with either the Scoot replica hood or the Knight Sports replica hood, knock off another $200 on top of the group buy prices.

I see a lot of you are interested but the price is too high for you. This is the only way for me to cut down the cost so email me if you are interested.

Chuck Huang

artowar2

Chuck: Here's a suggestion for the v-mount. First, it seems to me that it would be useful to have blocking plates at the side of the V (that mate with the bumper opening) to ensure that air is channeled through the V. Second, it may also be useful to have an adjustable splitter that sits in the V between the radiator and intercooler. That way, you could *tune* how much air gets sent through each.

You may have already accounted for this stuff in your design, but I didn't see anything in the pix (or in Knightsports' pix for their kit).

rotaryextreme

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The V-mount duct or blocking plates at the sides of the V-mount is the incomplete part and that's what I am making now.

The splitter inside the "V" is a good idea if you have a aftermarket bumper with a larger front opening. It pretty much makes no sense if you want to do that with the stock bumper since the opening is already pretty small. I will include a adjustable splitter like that though.

Chuck Huang

evot23

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everything looks really really good!!! I should be getting a scoot hood soon and am seriously considering the v or the Hmic depending on budget.

Keep up the good work and keep us posted!

rotaryextreme

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If you want to get the Scoot replica hood, you will have to get rid of that M2 intercooler. It will not fit with the Scoot hood. It's probably the only intercooler that does not work with the Scoot replica hood because the duct is sitting too high. Contact me on getting a special price on getting both the V Mount or HMIC with Scoot replica hood.

Chuck Huang
http://www.rotaryextreme.com

evot23

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rotaryextreme:

Yeah, I realized the fitment issue with the M2...was going to get a FMIC but really like the set up you have going with the Scoot Hood.

I have the Scoot Hood already ordered...probably about 2 weeks ago and I think I'm #8 (?)

Anyway, I won't be able to get the IC until after Sevenstock. Plan on getting the Feed front end too!!! (Man you rotary extreme guys make me spend some serious money on the obsession!)

Caravaning across the country with the FL club so hopefully I'll get to meet you in Cali along with tons of others who have helped me via internet.

rotaryextreme

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Eddie:

I didn't get the order directly from you so maybe you ordered the hood from RX-7 Store or RMS. They are the only two authorized distributors for my products. I haven't received any drop-ship order from them under the name Eddie so I will call them up to double check for you.

If you order yours from someone else other than us (rotary extreme, rx-7 store, rms), you better be careful. I know some people on the internet selling Scoot replica hoods as scams. I ship out every single Scoot replica hood so I know where each one is going. If you are buying an used one online, contact me and I can tell you if the person indeed has it or not.

I am trying to set up a booth at Seven Stock to display all the products but I want to get my car repainted so I can put it on display. Hopefully it will be done before that or I will just display other project cars. If I get a booth, I should have about 3-4 single turbo FD's on display.

Chuck Huang