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Old 12-04-08, 11:49 PM
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It is nice to see this kind of thought process go into making a part, good for you it looks nice! Personally I was thinking more along the lines of taking the NACA duct idea and bringing it towards the bumper opening but maybe you have a stock bumper so you don't have the space.
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Originally Posted by NissanConvert
Do you have a general idea of your IATs? Power? Anything like that so we can compare before and after on something other than the butt dyno?
Intake temps are logged on my AEM EMS. I will be able to pull the difference in temps from there. However, I'm not really looking to make power with this mod, per se... I just don't see any reason why the stock airbox should be drawing air away from the intercooler duct, and vice versa. Also, I don't want to just plop some open filters in there that draw in hot air from the engine bay. Also, I'm just having fun

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Personally I was thinking more along the lines of taking the NACA duct idea and bringing it towards the bumper opening but maybe you have a stock bumper so you don't have the space.
Yes, stock '95 front bumper, so space is at a premium. When completed, I will have a dedicated duct for the airbox, a dedicated duct for the radiator, and a dedicated duct for the intercooler so they all play nice. The front brakes might have to get a little of that action, too

Also, my springs, tires, and wheels arrived this week, can't wait to get them out of my apartment and on the car!!!
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Last night I layed up 2 layers of 1.5oz csm on the top of the box. I guess I'll just do the sides two at a time to ensure even coats and good adhesion around the corners.


I also had to fill a low point on the duct. I didn't have any reinforced filler, so I made some with an oz of poly resin and 1/4" chopped strands. I mixed it up thick and it worked pretty well.




Hopefully finishing up this weekend so I can move on to new parts.
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good fad skills but did you think about water making it to the filter and then to the engine, might want to rethink it and do some more r&d
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Originally Posted by CosmoQuik
good fad skills but did you think about water making it to the filter and then to the engine, might want to rethink it and do some more r&d
Duly noted, and I have worried about this too. However, I daily drive my FX, so the RX only sees dry conditions (in Los Angeles, to boot). Air enters into the lower chamber of the airbox and passes up through the panel filter. Thus, any water that enters will be below the filter panel and will simply drain out the small drainage holes I put in the bottom of the airbox.
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You could use the same NACA ducting technique with ducts behind the openings in the R1 lip and find a way to route it to your brakes... just an idea. Also I wouldn't worry about water, when traveling at speed the air around the car means that the water isn't falling straight into the duct.
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Originally Posted by dradon03
You could use the same NACA ducting technique with ducts behind the openings in the R1 lip and find a way to route it to your brakes... just an idea.
That's pretty much what I intend to do! The last time I barreled down the canyons West of LA my brake pads were literally smoking at the bottom.
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Nice work!
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Originally Posted by TimeMachine
That's pretty much what I intend to do! The last time I barreled down the canyons West of LA my brake pads were literally smoking at the bottom.
Keep us posted

If you decide to go with an aftermarket bumper you will begin to be able to explore your imaginations potential.
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Originally Posted by CosmoQuik
good fad skills but did you think about water making it to the filter and then to the engine, might want to rethink it and do some more r&d
For that to happen he would have to pratically be under water. Even if did get that far no harm done... poor mans water injection FTW!!!




EDIT- BTW nice thread! reminds me of the old days when this section was actually interesting.
Old 12-06-08, 01:44 AM
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there was another guy on the forum that did this a few years back. he had a black fd and made the duct just the same
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thanks for being creative and for posting pics, for that reason, you rock.
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Originally Posted by TimeMachine
Intake temps are logged on my AEM EMS. I will be able to pull the difference in temps from there. However, I'm not really looking to make power with this mod, per se... I just don't see any reason why the stock airbox should be drawing air away from the intercooler duct, and vice versa. Also, I don't want to just plop some open filters in there that draw in hot air from the engine bay. Also, I'm just having fun
I mentioned earlier that i was thinking about doing just this with my own car. I want to know if it works!
Old 12-06-08, 04:21 PM
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I like the duct, I didn't catch what the bigger cutout's were for. I'm assuming engine ventilation?
Old 12-08-08, 11:40 AM
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mono4lamar: The bigger openings are for hot air ventilation. I bought some black powdercoated hexagon expanded metal from this site. However, later, I may sculpt in a duct aligned to the back of a new intercooler, but that's a project for another day.

Big thanks to everyone following this thread! I got some time to work on this over the weekend, almost there...

It finally looks like a duct. The green stuff is Rage Gold body filler, only the best... I sanded it to a smooth finish with 320 grit, but after I painted it, I think I may have to go back and fill/sand a little more.




Priming in my ghetto paint booth.


Back on the hood, things are stacking up. The box and collar fitted to the hood w/o the duct. It's hard to see, but I adhered a ring of weatherstripping inside of the collar to rest up against the airbox inlet when the hood is shut. This seals off the ducting to any engine air. Do you think it would help to wrap the ducting with heat-resistant materials?


The box and collar fitted to the air inlet w/o the hood. I used silicone to seal the inside edges of the box. Are all these pictures overkill?


With the hood shut, you can see how the air will flow into the box through the ducting still in the ghetto paint booth.


All that's left to do is permanently attach the duct to the hood, the box to the duct, and the collar to the box. The whole lot fits to the hood now and aligns with the airbox inlet as the hood shuts.
Old 12-08-08, 04:17 PM
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I'm anxious to see how this is going to look.
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That's a heckuva long way to go to make the factory airbox work, but congrats all the same. Nice work.
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Thumbs up

Great work! Might want to save all your templates in case there's enough interest
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Originally Posted by ptrhahn
That's a heckuva long way to go to make the factory airbox work, but congrats all the same. Nice work.
LOL, agreed! But like I said, there's no reason the factory system should be robbing the intercooler of cold air if I can help it. Add the danger of reverse airflow at high speeds? Forgetaboutit! Something had to be done... Next I plan on fabricating a duct for a new, larger smic and a dedicated duct for my Mazda Comp. radiator.

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Great work! Might want to save all your templates in case there's enough interest
Some of the plugs were lost by design, but the whole underhood system is easily replicable from the finished product.
Old 12-31-08, 03:42 PM
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Ok... So I finished up with this project and some of the elements turned out great, while others failed. The whole induction thing? Not happening... In the end, the whole deal looked to restrictive, as others had feared. And after witnessing the velocity at which air enters the relatively small mouth of the airbox, I realize now that open elements are the way to go. So, I'm going to build an M2 style air box with twin cylindrical air elements for the intake tubes. I have another stock airbox which I am going to modify for this project. The NACA duct actually turned out great, so that will now be feeding the yet to be completed airbox with a much more direct flow than before. Stay tuned...

CA glued to the hood.



You can also see some weatherstripping I added to close the gap between the front of the hood and the bumper. Air was getting in there and trying to force the hood up, but not any longer...



The hex perf metal screens are angled such that air should flow directly over the top to help "pull" hot air from the engine bay below. Viewed from above, it's 63% open area.



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where did you get the metal hex screens?
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Originally Posted by DriftDreamzSS
where did you get the metal hex screens?
I bought it from Custom Car Grills.com
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This thread is evolving into an all inclusive "TimeMachine" projects/build thread (in lieu of starting new threads for each project); and, if a mod could alter that thread title for me that would be great, thx

Over the last weekend I had a chance to fix the stock intercooler duct. I patched the hole for the stock intake box and cut off the A/C duct and patched that. I was feeling super lazy, so that's why I used some flat fiberglass panels I had lying around instead of 'glassing the duct like a normal person... They are CA glued in place and further sealed with silicone. Now, all the flow from the stock duct goes to the smic.











Next up is modding the airbox to accept two cylindrical K&N filters fed by the NACA duct and allowing the radiator some room to breathe.
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great work so far. DIY mods FTW!
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