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Old Feb 13, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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compression test 85 psi

I heard from mazda that the minimum compression spec of 6 kg/cm^2, which equals 85 psi is that true? So to say that 85 psi on all three faces is bad?
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Old Feb 13, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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It's not horrible, but not great. The main thing is that the compression is consistant across the board.
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Old Feb 13, 2004 | 09:10 PM
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compression #'s

Just for a reference, my brother just bought a '93 FD , with 26K miles and all the compression numbers were like 130psi. ( he's a lucky bastard for gettting that car for only $16,300.)
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Old Feb 13, 2004 | 09:13 PM
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Not to hijack the mans thread, but what's a healthy or a great compression of a rotary motor ?
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Old Feb 13, 2004 | 11:04 PM
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130 is near perfect...90psi is 6:1 compression, for reference
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 02:20 AM
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130 psi = 8.84:1

6:1 compression = 88.20 psi

stock FD rotors are 8.5:1 right? So that would be 124.95 psi.

Of course most compression testers aren't accurate to the .01.....but just to keep things accurate
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 03:20 AM
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mine was 90lbs. on both side on both rotors

as long as it is consistant than you should be okay
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 08:51 AM
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The reason I asked is b/c I'm gonna buy on of those compression testers.
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by suganuma
130 psi = 8.84:1

6:1 compression = 88.20 psi

stock FD rotors are 8.5:1 right? So that would be 124.95 psi.

Of course most compression testers aren't accurate to the .01.....but just to keep things accurate
interesting
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 12:04 PM
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Stock FD rotors are 9.0:1. Nominal (new) compression is 120psi, minimum is 85psi. Although compression ratio is related to your absolute compression readings, they are not equivalent. That is to say, if atmospheric is 14.7psi and you have a 9.0:1 compression ratio, you will not achieve 9x14.7psi = 132psi on your compression meter. That is simply the maximum possible static compression. Since the test is dynamic compression, plus in the real world no engine seals perfectly, you are always going to see something lower than that. Another interesting thing to note is testing the car cold will result in higher numbers than testing it hot (this has been demonstrated by a list member and was also what Mazdatrix told me). Testing hot is the proper procedure.
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by Nathan Kwok
Stock FD rotors are 9.0:1. Nominal (new) compression is 120psi, minimum is 85psi. Although compression ratio is related to your absolute compression readings, they are not equivalent. That is to say, if atmospheric is 14.7psi and you have a 9.0:1 compression ratio, you will not achieve 9x14.7psi = 132psi on your compression meter. That is simply the maximum possible static compression. Since the test is dynamic compression, plus in the real world no engine seals perfectly, you are always going to see something lower than that. Another interesting thing to note is testing the car cold will result in higher numbers than testing it hot (this has been demonstrated by a list member and was also what Mazdatrix told me). Testing hot is the proper procedure.
Cool, I didn't think of including real world limiting factors. My numbers were just rough theory, perfect atmospheric conditions, etc etc. I thought and posted too quickly. Thanks for correcting me.

So fully warmed up 85-120 psi is within spec. What is acceptable as far as difference in compression from face to face? 10psi? 20psi?
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 01:01 PM
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The '93 FSM allows a 21psi differential.
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